Is Canelo Still The P4P Number 1?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, May 9, 2022.

  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Active Member Full Member

    Aug 2, 2021
    He's still undisputed at Super Middleweight and stepped up to fight arguably the number 1 light heavyweight (certainly top 2) in the world. He is a 4 division champ (counting fading Kovalev) and was clearly the number 1 guy at 154, 160 and 168.

    Does a loss automatically disqualify a fighter from being number 1 P4P?
  2. drenlou

    drenlou Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 22, 2015
    Hes somewhere within the top 3.
  3. DramaShow

    DramaShow Boxing Addict Full Member

    Dec 22, 2020
    Usyk is number 1. After reflecting on the events of the weekend, I'd still say Canelo is top 3.Top 5 at a minimum.
  4. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    He wasn’t #1 before he lost to Bivol…
    Usyk was & still is.
  5. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    May 13, 2018
  6. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 21, 2010
    I’d say yes or at worst top 3 he still has the best resume in boxing, it’s not like any of the other p4p contender are doing anything majorly impressive if we combine skills accolades and level of comp even with a lost it’s hard to argue.
    Every great fighter in boxing history has taken an L or has a debatable decision at some point if you fight enough high quality fighters it’s bound to happen, who you fight how you win or lose and how you bounce back is vastly more important
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  7. miniq

    miniq Big Stiff Idiot Full Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Tyson Fury is the best fighter on the planet
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    Jul 21, 2012
    The top 10 gets reshuffled when the #1 guy loses
  9. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Mar 18, 2012
    I don't see how anyone can not see usyk as clear p4p #1. He cleared out his entire weight class on their own turf, then went up to heavyweight and won the entire thing after only 2 fights. What more could you ask for?
  10. JOKER

    JOKER Raiden's Big Papi banned Full Member

    Dec 18, 2019
    1. Inoue
    2. Usyk
    3. Bivol

    The rest.
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  11. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Addict Full Member

    Dec 5, 2010
  12. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 7, 2018
    Usyk beat the bigger guy, Canelo didn't
  13. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 17, 2011
    Alvarez is still P4P # 1 IMO. His body of work isn't erased because he lost (for the 1st time in 9 years) in a weight class he has no business being in.

    He was daring to be great.

    From 168 & below, no one can beat him so it's not like the Bivol loss changes that.
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  14. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 26, 2006
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009

    Look at how many Spence fans are claiming he's #1 in the comments

    Prior to Saturday night #1 was either Clenelo or Usyk

    A straight choice between those two

    Crawford, despite his weak resume, was #3

    Spence isn't even in the discussion

    Good fighter but how in god's name is he more accomplished, talented and skilful than Usyk? There is literally zero argument for him to be ranked above him

    As there is for him to be ranked above Clenelo, Crawford and Inoue

    Loma dropped right down from #1 to #8 or #9 IIRC after losing to the much bigger Teofimo in his backyard even though he's the most skilful fighter in the game, one of the biggest risk takers, and was giving away huge physical advantages (much more than Clenelo is) in a division full of giants

    Josh Taylor dropped down from #5 to #8 after the Catterall fight

    Usyk is ranked #2 behind Clenelo by The Ring but he should be bumped up to #1 after they update their rankings. Clen should probably still maintain a top 3 spot. Loma shouldn't have been dropped down so far either when fighters they have ranked above him haven't taken near the risks he has, aren't near as skilful or talented, and are huge for the weight and have forged a career beating up on leprechauns and career lower weight fighters, which is the complete opposite of what he, and he's the complete the antithesis of a weight bully, has done. When he moves up he's actually fighting bigger/much naturally bigger men, when fighters who are absolutely massive for the weight do so they're often still the bigger man or at worst the same size.

    For example, if David Benavidez moved up to fight Bivol he would be far bigger than him

    He weighs a lot more than him even now

    If Usyk is elevated to #1 a lot more people gonna be praying he loses the rematch to AJ
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