Is canelo the biggest cherry picker in the game?

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    That could happen if people were picking this as a cherry pick gone wrong which was a common narrative from what I saw from people picking Kovalev to win on these boards.
     
  2. Scar

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    Only the minority take the route, the majority surely don’t. In this case the majority picked Kovalev and thought Alvarez and his team were crazy prior to the fight. There was absolutely nothing suggesting that this was a cherry pick considering Alvarez was moving up two weight divisions for this fight. Again, the actual fight itself proved it wasn’t either.

    Since Alvarez is the topic, here’s a better example of a cherry pick. Alvarez vs Khan.
     
  3. Octolony shore

    Octolony shore Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The majority of people were picking kovalev yet canelo was 1/4 with the bookies, kovalev was lucky to get through the yarde fight and canelo thought I'll have some of that, he's done.
     
  4. Scar

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    And the fight proved to be competitive too, which is hardly what a cherry pick looks like prior to the fight and during the fight as well.
     
  5. Octolony shore

    Octolony shore Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The proof is there, 36 year old kovalev gassed down the stretch and got knocked unconscious by a middleweight on juice, if that wasn't a shot fighter I don't know what is. Goodnight peckerhead.
     
  6. Scar

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    It was only a matter of time before you come out as the idiot you are. On “juice”..., sure thing fruitcake. Let me guess, you’re a Golovkin fan. :lol:
     
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  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don’t think he is a cherry picker,him choosing Lara against Oscars wishes tellsme he ain’t that.I think Oscar picks his opponents and the weight clauses and Canelo just does his thing.
    He fought Golovkin twice and Danny Jacobs and neither of those could be considered cherry picks.
     
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  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly this.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't see how Khan is a cherry pick. 1) the year before the public was clamoring for Mayweather to fight Khan as he was seen as his most difficult stylistic opponent 2) Canelo or his team didn't pick Khan at all, Khan literally called up GBP and asked for the fight which was a surprise to Canelo and his team.
     
  10. IsaL

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    Cotto- Cotto chose the weight and the purse favored Cotto
    Khan- Khan chose the weight
    Golovkin I- Golovkin chose the weight, and demanded a large sum of money for the fight
    Golovkin II- Golovkin required he approved the ref, the judges and the boxing gloves, also demanded a very large sum of money
     
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  11. shadow111

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    That's what makes Canelo's achievements so impressive. Not only has he beat these guys but he did it with them demanding the weight and in GGG's case a lot more yet ironically it's Canelo that is accused of using these tactics when it's his opponents who have done it to him.
     
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    Another inconsistency with his haters is that they bring up the 3 rehydration clauses he's had but a lot of his haters are Pacquiao fanatics who is king of the catchweights.
     
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  13. Scar

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    Khan was a joke fight and everyone knew it. Literally every prediction thread had people pick the round Khan was going to get starched in because we all knew that was the result anyway. I am just impressed it lasted to round 6. I was expecting him to get iced in the first round. Of course Khan was going to call and ask for it. It’s serious money, it will guarantee buyers(600k PPV buys) and he had nothing to lose anyway.

    Off-topic for a second, the thing about Khan is whether you love him or hate him, he always guarantees excitement.
     
  14. shadow111

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    But you get my points right. I mean I know people expected Khan to get starched, but it's not like Canelo picked him. Khan literally called up GBP and asked for the fight. You're not cherry picking somebody when the opponent picks you and asks for a fight. Khan wasn't even on GBP's radar. And again the year before people wanted to see Mayweather fight him, to see Mayweather challenged. So as chinny as Khan was he still is a difficult stylistic match for anybody if you can't get him outta there. And he proved he could fight winning several of those first 5 rounds.
     
  15. Scar

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    Yes I do get your points, but I can’t honestly say I agree with them. I like your enthusiasm for Khan and trust me I love Khan, but lets be realistic here, he’s nothing serious anymore and wasn’t when Alvarez fought him either. Mayweather would’ve butchered him with no effort just like Alvarez sparked him senseless. The only thing that makes Khan look good in there is his speed and literally nothing else. He’s flashy early on but very predictable yet his speed lets him get away with it. As soon as he tires, he’s wide open for any counter in the book because his attacks are never calculated, he just jumps in with his typical one twos and gets clocked as he does so over and over. It’s almost like his team gave up on him and trained him to get clocked as he does his one twos because at least if he knows he will eat counters, it might not catch him by surprise and spark him.

    Khan called for the fight because of the money. He had nothing to lose and it was a massive risk. Khan + massive risks = guarantee entertainment/money. Alvarez could have declined the offer easily or laughed it off, but no, they took it. Who wouldn’t take it?. It’s a tune-up quality fight that will pay him more than a serious fight would. It would be idiotic for them to turn something like that down.