Is Canelo the most overrated boxer in history?

Canelo made opportunistic moves to artificially inflate his aura of greatness. He is overrated. But still a top P4P. I also agree that watching his fights against GGG with no sound and more objectivity allows us to see the fights are much closer than what commentators and crowd see. He should have a loss against GGG.

I believe Beterbiev is currently more overrated than Canelo though. I can't stand that people see this guy as an unbeatable slugger. He is only one punch away from being knocked down. Yarde had zero amateur experience. Joe Smith fights like a youtuber. Gvozdyk is the only legit win Beterbiev has. Canelo in comparison achieved much more.

 

He got schooled by Floyd and Bivol, lost twice to GGG and couldn't knock him out when the latter was 40 years old and just came in for the payday, was losing against faded Kovalev who did nothing more than pitty pat him. Generally his fights are boring because he lacks that killer instinct to get some of the lesser fighters out of there (took him 11 rounds to stop Caleb Plant). Damn right he is overrated. Basically he is nowhere near on the top 50 ATG list as some delusional fanboys claim he is

 

There are many shady things around Canelo but the man has a very deep resume with many legit wins against legit opponents. He might be many things, but a protected fraud is not one of them. Mayweather would never have risked a fight against Bivol. So the answer is no, he is not a fraud. And that’s coming from someone who never particularly liked the guy.

Even in this era, I can think of more overrated boxers. There is a certain fat ogre in the heavies who is surrounded by mass hysteria even though he only had six title fights against mostly laughable opposition, one of them being an almost 40, 12 losses Chisora (whom he already beat twice like a decade ago) as a voluntary title defence. Imagine Ali or Lewis voluntarily defending a WBC belt against someone like that and then calling themselves the greatest while ducking the reigning unified heavyweight champion of the world. Fraudy does have a legit claim to be the greatest of all time - the greatest fraud, that is.

 

Still roided and got suspended lmao what a cheater

 

Yes

 

Bivol Boxed his ears off
Mayweather schooled him
Crawford caned him
GGG beat him twice

Record is overrated.

 

I miss Cj margarita was FRAMED FRAMED I TELL YA

 

Said this from the first time in saw him lose which was to larry mosley.

 

Lara beat him clear

 

Yes

 

I’ve never been a fan. He was a hard hitter with a great chin.
His defence at one point was touted as being some kind of Pernell or niccolino level.

He was massively roided which made a huge difference to his power imo.
He gets too much credit for even competitive with old GGG, Jacobs and others were competitive as well.
GGG lost a lot more than people realise when he was 34/35, like most fighters do. Look how Canelo declined himself.

He was always reasonably slow, and his stamina was even worse. He wouldn’t beat anyone great around middleweight just for those reasons without even talking about his skill, which was pretty good in his prime in fairness.

I can’t get behind such a blatant cheat and establishment favourite like he is.

 

In my opinion Canelo is overrated, at least based on the comments I hear about him from many people (often on social media, and many of them are casual fans).

I think he clearly lost against Lara, 7-5. I would have considered a draw generous for Canelo, but his victory was controversial. I'm more accepting of the draw in the rematch with GGG, where I had two points for the Kazakh but the fight was more close (but I wouldn't have given a verdict in favor of Canelo, who was the challenger). The Canelo-Lara verdict reminded me of the Vargas-Wright one (I had Wright win by a clear 7-5, Vargas' victory is controversial). Obviously, the first match with GGG is a piece of robbery. On the other hand, his victories against Jacob and Trout were good, narrow but fair in my opinion, the best of his career. Mosley, Cotto, and Kovalev were no longer in their prime, and I don't consider them great victories. For me, Canelo is not an ATG but a 'Great of his era', a champion who has lost against great champions (Mayweather, GGG, Bivol and Crawford).

This is my opinion on Canelo, expressed objectively and knowing his career. Obviously, I respect those who think differently, we're not all the same and I think it's idiotic to get annoyed and not accept ideas different from your own.

 

Very good post in my opinion. Canelo has dared to be great. Even fighting Mayweather with the weight advantage was a balsy move. Overrated? Possibly. But a helluva fighter!!