Is Carl Froch a bum?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Terrible Terry, Nov 30, 2008.


  1. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    youre an idiot for using the word "bum" in that reference.
    hes getting ready to fight for the WBC super middleweight title.
    "bums" are guys who never win and get knocked out alot.
    so choose your adjectives a little more careful, because you look ignorant when you say **** like that.
    :patsch
     
  2. scott is cool

    scott is cool Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He has great power and decent speed, his accuracy is sharp as well; he rarely waste punches. His defence is pretty poor but he has never been effected by it, but that is probably becuase he has never fought a top level fighter. I expect Froch to beat Pascal when they fight but I'm not too sure on it.
     
  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It's hardly ''fa sho''
     
  4. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he is a good fighter and everyone is avoiding him.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Because Taylor doesn't need a title to be marketable or attract other top fighters. He's bigger than that. Taylor wasn't fighting in an eliminator against Lacy. He was fighting Lacy and the WBC decided to call it an eliminator.

    Taylor is not ducking Froch because Froch is not his mandatory challenger. Taylor's the mandatory challenger of Froch v. Pascal. Taylor had the chance to fight Froch for the title, but to Taylor, a win over Froch + the WBC belt not shown on HBO means less than a win over Lacy on HBO, given that he can fight the more proven winner of Froch v. Pascal afterwards anyway. Risk/reward has a lot to do with it, of course, but I'm not sure money is part of the equation. We've only got Mick Hennesy's word for that. No figures have been made public so it's impossible to know how much money Taylor made against Lacy. We only know what Hennessy said he could have offered Taylor...

    Froch is a prospect, nothing more. Most top fighters like Taylor, who could get a title shot against anyone anytime would be more likely to fight a proven fellow-countryman contender/ex-champ like Lacy, on HBO, than a prospect for the WBC title. It's not as if Taylor couldn't fight for the WBC title any time he wanted to...right? Fighting Lacy then made sense, because Lacy was going to get beaten by the first good fighter that he'd have fought, so it made sense to pluck him right in time and look impressive doing it. Froch can wait...he can fight Froch or Pacal any time he wanted to.

    Taylor's making more money fighting Lacy and then the Froch v. Pascal winner than he'd have made fighting Froch, obviously. He's also getting more credit. If he had fought Froch for the title, people would have expected him to unify straight away, against either Bute or Kessler...he wouldn't have had the chance to fight Lacy again, because that would have been a step backwards.

    Compare that to Diaconu/Dawson/Tarver. Dawson could have fought Diaconu and then Tarver, making more money and getting more credit than for what he actually ended up doing - ducking Diaconu, dropping the belt and fighting Tarver alone.
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No one's avoided him except possibly Inkin. On the other hand, he's avoided Bute and plenty of others.
     
  7. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    pretty much everyone has avoided him.

     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No, he's pretty much avoided everyone. Do some research and you will convince yourself.
     
  9. stakeout

    stakeout Active Member Full Member

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    Look back at all the shenanigans earlier this year with Inkin pulling out of the fight multiple times. Inkin went seriously down in my estimation after that. Froch may not be an ATG but Pascal better show him some respect.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Inking got injured and then got flue. Fine, let's say he didn't try his utmost to fight him when he found out he could get a shot at the WBO instead...but he knew he could get a shot at the WBO even before he agreed to fight Froch...so...

    ...but fine, let's say Inkin avoided him...

    ...but no one else did, unless you count Calzaghe...who gave up his belt and fought Hopkins rather than Froch, his mandatory.

    On the other hand, Froch avoided Bute, and didn't try to fight Andrade Bika, or anyone else either, preferring to fight Tatevosyan and Reid instead...

    ...he's only got himself to blame for not being more than a prospect at this stage...there were fights out there for him to make, but he avoided them meticulously...
     
  11. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carl Froch is an average fighter with below average defence.

    He will get schooled once he steps up (I don't consider Pascal a big step up though).
     
  12. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    why would anyone care about belts in boxing today...i would rather see taylor fight a guy like dirrell than fight for a title vs froch
     
  13. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    good post:deal :good
     
  14. DStew

    DStew Active Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  15. pugilist64

    pugilist64 Guest

    Complete bum. He`s been lucky 23 times just like Joe Calzaghe has been lucky 46 times. :roll: