Is Carl Froch amongst the top ten SMW fighters of all time?

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Is Carl Froch a top ten SMW

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    For the sake of consistency with my own way of ranking, Roy Jones is excluded from this list as he has a home in the LHW division.

    I'm talking about people who at their very best were SMW fighters.

    The likes of Toney, Ward, Ottke, Kessler, Beyer, Eubank, Benn, Calzaghe, Groves, Lyle, Mitchell, many others I've forgotten

    If we were to make a top ten SMW list, ranking this guys who as peak fighters were SMWs, would Froch be in the top ten?
     
    lufcrazy, May 27, 2020
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  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones was at his very best as a super middleweight.

    But to answer your question, yes, based on accomplishments I think Froch is somewhere in the top 10 at 168.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Based on résumé, absolutely. In fact, he's top 5 at minimum.

    However, H2H? There's LOADS who beat him. Is he top 10? Maybe, but I reckon there's 10 who would possibly beat him.
     
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  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah. On resume he might be top 3, since it isn't a very deep division. I don't know, maybe Ottke edges him out? Calzaghe and Ward should be the top 2 guys, I guess.
     
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  5. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Without question in my mind. Very solid wins against Kessler, Bute, Johnson, Abraham, Taylor and Groves.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

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    Which ten?
     
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  7. lufcrazy

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    He does have an excellent resume imo.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    I think the top 4 is between Ward, Calzaghe, Toney and Froch.
     
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  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Ward and Kessler. Obviously. Then Jones, Toney, Calzhage, McClellan, Watson and Eubank would've been on my list to pull it off.

    Hearns, Ottke, Dirrell, Benn, Collins and Barkley could all do it too.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    I'd favour Ward and Toney.

    I wouldn't actually favour any other SMW over him tbh.

    Even Toney I'm not 100% sure about due to the way in which he could be pressured and bullied.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

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    Sorry - did you mean to say you'd pick Froch over Jones and Calzaghe?
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    I don't think I pick anyone over Jones from 175 or below, but as stated above I rank him at LHW not SMW. I'd pick Sugar Ray, Marvin Hagler, Hopkins and many others to beat him weighing in at 168, but I rank them in other divisions.

    As for Joe Calzaghe, yes I favour Froch to beat him. I think he'd make it into a war, Joe would oblige and Froch would come out on top.
     
    lufcrazy, May 27, 2020
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  14. Jester

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    He's a lock for me. I couldn't think of a list of ten SMW's I would rank above him based on achievements at 168.
     
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  15. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    He is top 5 imo. H2H, you might think of 10 or more who could beat him, but he's up in the mix with nearly all of them. I personally think he is slightly underrated H2H.
     
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