Is carl froch the most accomplished active smw today?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Dec 3, 2010.


Page 2 of 2
  1. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,235
    6,499
    Jan 22, 2009
    U really thought Froch would lose to Taylor after since exposed Pavlik decapitated him at 160?Serious?
     
    Clinton, Dec 3, 2010
    Clinton, Dec 3, 2010
    #16
  2. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,867
    13
    Jan 20, 2009
    Accomplished has never been defined as skill or ability.
     
    BoxingFanNo1, Dec 3, 2010
    BoxingFanNo1, Dec 3, 2010
    #17
  3. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,504
    0
    Mar 27, 2010
    Froch Gets the nod for most acomplished for me.. every test except for Kessler he passed it.. He look shakey in some bouts(Taylor) Outclassed in others (Dirrell) Out dueled (Kessler) but through it all he is still standing, plus he got the WBA strap back.. moving forward if he takes Johnson, then Ward, He will be the ****en man in my book.. He has 1 or 2 more test.. but as of now he is legit...
     
    Icanteach2005, Dec 3, 2010
    Icanteach2005, Dec 3, 2010
    #18
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

    86,106
    4,096
    Jul 19, 2004
    Froch's ball is bigger than Ward's any day. Ward refused to fight in the tournament unless all his fights were in his home town, with his personal referee and judges. Ward cheats.
     
    Farmboxer, Dec 4, 2010
    Farmboxer, Dec 4, 2010
    #19
  5. TIME-BOMB

    TIME-BOMB Rising Superstar Full Member

    486
    0
    Oct 11, 2008
    Slightly give Kessler the edge over Froch
     
    TIME-BOMB, Dec 4, 2010
    TIME-BOMB, Dec 4, 2010
    #20
  6. BunnyGibbons

    BunnyGibbons Is Not About That Life Full Member

    6
    6
    Jun 9, 2010
    Froch is Hitler now!?
     
    BunnyGibbons, Dec 4, 2010
    BunnyGibbons, Dec 4, 2010
    #21
  7. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,213
    420
    Aug 21, 2010
    Nope he's not, Kessler does
     
    EJDiaZ, Dec 4, 2010
    EJDiaZ, Dec 4, 2010
    #22
  8. NoHomeJerome

    NoHomeJerome Boxing Junkie banned

    8,229
    0
    Feb 14, 2010
    :patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch
     
    NoHomeJerome, Dec 4, 2010
    NoHomeJerome, Dec 4, 2010
    #23
  9. NoHomeJerome

    NoHomeJerome Boxing Junkie banned

    8,229
    0
    Feb 14, 2010

    :patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch
     
    NoHomeJerome, Dec 4, 2010
    NoHomeJerome, Dec 4, 2010
    #24
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    81,561
    21,929
    Sep 15, 2009
    lacy was a dominant champ and once considered the best in the division. he was a top rated opponent when him and taylor got it on. so i maintain my viewpoint on that one.

    AA and stieglitz, i see where you are coming from. i would actually rate stieglitz a lot higher atm. taylor was faded when AA beat him. and he got outclassed by dirrell and froch in his other fights at 168. infact ye, i was being silly stieglitz would be a better victory than AA.

    and lower weight opportunities should always be considered IMO.

    whilst it is actually a time of transition for the smw division, i do believe the winner of the super 6 will be a superstar
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 4, 2010
    lufcrazy, Dec 4, 2010
    #25
  11. Daddy Warbucks

    Daddy Warbucks Member Full Member

    212
    0
    Nov 29, 2010
    At this point Froch is the most accomplished in his division.
     
    Daddy Warbucks, Dec 4, 2010
    Daddy Warbucks, Dec 4, 2010
    #26
  12. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

    12,340
    1
    Jan 9, 2009
    Froch is the number 1 in the division imo, then Ward, then Bute.
     
    DOM5153, Dec 4, 2010
    DOM5153, Dec 4, 2010
    #27
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    81,561
    21,929
    Sep 15, 2009
    i imagine though that kessler has now retired
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 4, 2010
    lufcrazy, Dec 4, 2010
    #28
  14. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

    7,308
    1
    Jul 24, 2004
    Froch isn't far from it.

    But looking at his resume is almost as good as looking him up on boxrec to see how good he is. Thinking about his actual fights, that gives a proper, in depth look at this accomplishments.

    He got outboxed by Dirrell, and landed a controversial win.
    He got outboxed by Taylor, who was shot to ****. He dug deep to pull out the win, but he was exactly 14 seconds away from being schooled by a shot fighter.
    He got outboxed by Kessler, who's health concerns have now brought him to the brink of retirement.

    I used to think Froch was just a KO waiting to happen. He has convinced me he is more, but I am not sold on him as having the potential to rule the division. As to his accomplishments? There are a few too many grey areas to be certain.
     
    rushman, Dec 4, 2010
    rushman, Dec 4, 2010
    #29
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    81,561
    21,929
    Sep 15, 2009
    accomplishments are not about skill level. it is not about opinions and hypotheticals. it is about whatd he has done, factually.

    and factually he has fought

    magee, reid, pascal, taylor, dirrell, kessler, AA. he is scheduled to next fight johnson and the most likely ward.

    he easily has the best active resume at present. (assuming kessler is retired or not unavailable for a while that is)
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 4, 2010
    lufcrazy, Dec 4, 2010
    #30
Page 2 of 2