Is Carl Froch the most hyped prospect in the world?

He said those guys would beat Froch...read the damn postatsch

 

isn't frotch 32+ years? and still not a world champion???? joe was a champ in his early 20's!! and who has he faught? he hasn't had a fight with anyone remotely world class. frotch until he fights a big name will never be the real deal

 

Actually he is 31.:good

 

I did. And I disagree with him on at least 50% of it. Zuniga, Miranda and Bika have not got a ****ing hope in hell of beating Froch.
Bute and Taylor could well do, but it is a pick em.

Andrade again could certainly do so and Kessler would.

3 of his picks were horrible. One was a dead cert and the other 3 are close calls.

 

Zuniga is C level, but not C-...no way...if anything, he's C+.

Miranda would get sparked, most likely.

It doesn't matter if Froch catches Bute with his best punch. Bute can take a very good punch. He's proven it. Given that Froch is slower and more predictable than Berrio, he should be fine against Froch, unless Froch can walk him down, walk through his punches and do him on accummulation. He's not a pressure fighter by any means, from what I've seen...and he's not got great/fast footwork either.

Andrade...I don't know...don't know whether Froch can take pressure, or whether he is strong or whether he is tough...don't know much about him at all yet. Power and chin alone are not necessarily enough against Andrade.

Kessler...you're right about that. Froch would definitely get stopped.

 

The fact that people are picking Froch (or even justifying Froch) against guys like Bute, Taylor and even Bika shows that we have some plague of insanity going around.

Froch is too slow and too **** of a boxer to take out guys like Taylor or Bute. Andrade and Pavlik aren't otherworldly boxers...but they know how to apply effective aggression. Froch is too busy trying to ape RJJ to know anything about that.

I'd take Froch over Inkin, Zuniga, Pascal and Miranda...but that's about it.

 

Bute didn't look to solid against Andrade. As I said I would go with Bute, he is faster and a better boxer, but if Froch catches him clean he is in trouble.

As for Bika...:roll:

 

only in britain

 

He is 31, and Joe didn't fight for the WBO till he was 26, and then he didn't fight for the WBC until he was 33/34 or something.

Admittedly times perhaps not on Froch's side though.

 

He didn't look tough and strong against a very tough and strong fighter like Andrade who has a very effective inside game. Is Froch as strong and tough as Andrade? No reason to assume that, is there. He certainly isn't an inside fighter just because he has that uppercut of his...

...so...no. Froch can catch Bute as clean as he wants. Bute is not going down.

Bika...I forgot about him. Would Froch take Bika out? Is he active enough? Bika can take some serious power, you know...he is also very tough and knows how to survive on the inside if he's in trouble. Bika would tag Froch with his loopy right ALL NIGHT. If Froch has chin and power, it might not be enough against Bika because Bika could win on the outside on activity and effective punching alone. If Froch has even more of these two/even more other things, then yeah...but I wouldn't count Bika out just yet, that's for sure. We need to see more of Froch before judging his chances against Bika.

 

Not true. I do not even rate Froch particularly, but he hits very hard, has a solid chin and actually throws the right hand with good speed and accuracy. He has quicker hands than Pavlik and better footwork when throwing, but he is lazy, has nothing like Pavliks pressure, jab or combination punching.

But Pavlik caught Taylor with his plod forward, hugely telegraphed and predictable attacks. He has zero disguises on any shot he throws and he throws his big shots with less speed than Froch.

So it is not remotely insane to give Froch a chance at landing a big punch, given that he throws uppercuts with good disguise and is very accurate with his power punching.

You talk about Bute as if he has done something of a far far higher level. He is a MUCH better boxer, don't get me wrong, but he was very lucky not to have lost to Andrade and if you look at respective opponents, Froch has been far more impressive with what he has done to them.

As for Bika, how do you say "too **** of a boxer" and then say he couldn't beat Bika?
What the **** is Bika apart from wild pressure?

 

Yeah because we have never seen American fighters hyped have we?

I mean Lacy was never hyped was he? Or Pavlik? Allan Green and Jaidon Codrington were never yapped about as the destroyers of Calzaghe were they?:roll:

So seeing as you are so objective, who wins out of Froch and Pascal?

 

Very good chin, good power, very tough, good stamina, a great heart and will to win and take chances, rough on the inside...an effective combination if you don't have the tools and skills to keep the fight on the outside, whilst dodgin his hayemakers to the back of your head.

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I was talking about as a boxer. The comment was "Froch being talked about as beating Bika is insanity" and then "Froch is too **** a boxer", so clearly deeming Bika to not be a **** boxer.

Froch is not a very good boxer, sloppy, easy to hit, but he does have more ability than Bika and the other raw gifts are similar, both have good power and good chins.
Froch hits cleaner and faster, and in all probability, harder.

 

Froch definitely hits harder than Bika. He also hits cleaner, but he picks his shots much more, because he can afford to (given the quality of his opposition) and because he loads up more. Not sure he hits faster at all. Yeah, he does have more ability than Bika, but then, so do many people who are not as good as Bika. Froch has a very good amateur background and he could turn out to be a real monster. Just because he's not proven it yet doesn't mean it ain't happening. Wait and see. Power, chin, ambition and will to win can take you a long way in pro boxing, especially on the back of a lot of experience as an amateur.