Is Carl Froch the second greatest British fighter of all time right behind Lewis?

Not by ancestry. If you were born and raised in Japan would you be fully Japanese? Could you claim to be the best Japanese at something? Japanese is a nationality AND an ethnicity, so you'd fall down on part two, therefore I say no you could not claim to the best Japanese whatever .

 

Of course...why not?

If I was the fastest person in Japan, Id be representing them at the Olympics, standing for the Japanese anthem, while the Japanses flag few, wearing their colors, speaking Japanese.

What more do you want?

 

I just told you Japanese is an ethnicity and a nationality, you'd only tick one box. Likewise English in an ethnicity. British has different meanings that are not tied to ethncity, that option doesn't exist in Japan. You could wave the flag, sing the anthem, hold the record, but you wouldn't be Japanese with a white European skin and a name like Joe Bloggs/ Charlie Smithers. Maybe your children's grand children, if they all marrried Japanese, would be Japanese. Just how it is.

 

You're making up these "Boxes"!

They're not actual things!

In years to come the record books would say "Jim Smith*-Jap 10.03 (NR)" or whatever.

I mean by your logic, pretty much NONE of the English athletics records are actually held by English people!

You're a citizen of a country, you're of thatn country. Period.

Otherwise, that would mean the only true Americans would be the indigenous Indians!

Even in England, theres traces of Romans, Normans, Vikings, Celts going back 100s if not 1000s of years.

*Not actual name!

 

Lewis is not British. DEAL WiTH IT!

You can go on about the Normans, and the Vikings and what not but it won't make damn difference.

 

Yes he is. You don't get to decide who is considered British. The people who do decide have decided that Lewis is British. Deal with it.

 

Those tactics put McClennan in a vegetable state. Benn was so dirty in that fight. Believe me when I say McClennan would've KO'd Jones.

 

Barry McGuigan? Ricky Hatton? Henry Cooper? Joe Bugner? Ken Buchanan?

 

Are you somehow ******ed? Think about it, according to your own logic the population of the USA is not even 6 million because that's the amount of native americans living there. The rest consists of Europeans and Africans. Furthermore a high percentage of Brits are either Spaniards or German. So even most white Brits aren't true Brits... What'S the problem in understanding this?

By the way, what's your nationality? Surely not American, right?

 

Prove me otherwise.

 

What's the problem in understanding that Germans, and Spaniards are WHITE, and Jamaican's are NOT!

Big Difference.

I think I could concede, a German, or Italian moving to another European nation as being a national to that nation specifically because they are Europeans. But an African, Arab, or Asian cannot specifically because they are not whites. And for Christ's sake blow that "one race human race" mantra right out of your ass.

By they way, the Amerindians that were inhabiting the continent, but that doesn't mean that they set up, and designed the legislative body that would soon be known as the Constitution of The United States of America.

You using the Amerindians to prove your point is indicative of your fallacious line of ******ed thinking. Everything about the U.S.A. is European in nature, not Amerindians.

But why am I discussing it with you? When have liberals ever shown the ability to think for themselves in a logical manner and back up anything they say with facts.

 

lewis is british in the same way martina navritilova is american. they are legally, but their athletic training occured elsewhere.