Is Carl Froch the second greatest British fighter of all time right behind Lewis?

:rofl

Liberals are the most ridiculous human beings on Earth.

They are not British, nor will the EVER be!

Not an opinion, FACT!

The best British boxer is Sir Joe Calzaghe. Deal with it libtard! :deal

 

Well, since you want to disregard the legal argument of what citizenship they have, or the birth-nation argument of where they were born, that leaves the choice argument of what nationality they choose to consider themselves. This is what nationality is about.

What your arguing is genetics, not nationality. Ancestral background does no effect ones national indentity.

 

Society, and culture is a genetic construct of the people inhabiting the area they reside in.

What nationality should those men consider themselves? I don't know. Maybe something African, but definitely not European. Only native Europeans should have the right to call themselves Europeans. Just like I don't consider the South African whites Africans. I consider them, Europeans residing in an alien continent.

 

I don't need to have power. Parties like UKIP, and more hardcore nationalist parties are prominent entities in international politics as of late, and they will make sure to draw the line more clearly between who's a Euro, and who is not! :fire

Get used to liberal buddy boy. :hi:

 

You don't get to redefine what nationality means or who can call themselves what. Legally, technically the boxers mentioned in this thread are British by how legal citizenship is defined. If you don't like it, too bad.

 

But that's not your choice, its theirs. And if they choose to consider themselves even a tiny bit British then you have no right to dismiss them and condemn their decision to do so nor criticize people who respect it.

 

na·tion·al·i·ty
ˌnaSHəˈnalitē/Submit
noun
noun: nationality; plural noun: nationalities
1.
the status of belonging to a particular nation.
"they changed their nationality and became Lebanese"
synonyms: citizenship More
distinctive national or ethnic character.
"the change of a name does not discard nationality" :hey:yep

2.
an ethnic group forming a part of one or more political nations.
"all the main nationalities of Ethiopia" :yep:deal

According to Google, both of our definitions coincide with the various meanings of nationality. As it stands, for me (and for the rest of most Europeans in the near future), nationality is a lot more than just some bureaucratic paperwork.

 

turpin
buchanan
fitzimmons
Ted Lewis
eubank and benn (they didn't wait until the top opponents were past their prime like Joe Bumzaghe)
Jimmy Wilde
lennox (if he counts as British)

calzaghe - never legitimately (Hopkins was robbery) beat an elite fighter in his life. and no, Kessler and Lacy are not elite

 

It's not their choice and that is what I am trying to say.

You don't choose who you want to be, it's chosen for you. If somebody bleeding heart cant take it, well than that's just too bad isn't it.

 

So you think in the future they will group people into nationalities genetically? I don't see how that is gonna work.

 

Typical "muh dik" talk. So original.

You're right though that UKIP will not do anything as far as demographics are concerned, but who's to say more hardcore nationalist parties will not. :hey It's only a matter of time.

 

When the current political system fails, and entities like the E.U. fall apart (which is all but certain), they will. :yep