Is Castillo the only one who has ever beaten Floyd by Compubox numbers?

1. No
2. Castillo fought a floyd with an injured hand and this was also floyd's first first fight at 135
3. No, it doesn't, and its the same situation with hatton. Everyone seems to be forgetting how hatton talk about the castillo blue print, for that to work floyd needs to enter the bout with injured hands as well:rofl

if mosley relies on this castillo blueprint he gonna get hattoned! lol

 

Compubox isn't some infallible technology. It's actually just people with computerized counters and it's totally fallible. So I don't put too much into it.

 

Well the points that were made above are pretty much what I'd say. Mayweather's just stepping up to lightweight, injured, and against a helluva tough fighter in Castillo. I dislike Mayweather but he fought when it couldn't have been easy, did well, probably should've lost but immediately came back to answer the question of who was better.

 

those stats don't surprise me. anyone who thinks floyd won the 1st castillo fight is a fool.

sorry for not answering your questions.

 

It will give Mosely some encouragement psychologically but won't have any bearing a Mosely-Mayweather fight.

 

If you think that Floyd can KO Mosley with a check hook you are extremely delusional.

 

Exactly!

 

cant use compubox as an accurate measure of who won the fight...look at the numbers vs de la hoya, yet many will claim that the fight was close but the compubox stats tell a different story...its also kind of hard to even look at those to determine a fight because... say for instance floyd won 2 rounds landing only 10 shots in each, and then he lost 2 landing only 5 in each (30 punches total). then say castillo went thru those same four rounds landing 6, 8, 18, and 13 shots. That would be a total of 45-30 for castillo. Say all 12 rounds went this way (split into three, four round segments), it would be castillo 145 to floyds 90 landed...but the fight would be a draw based on rounds...just picked some random numbers, but i hope the point is clear.

 

Mayweather had a torn rotator cuff in that fight, not injured hands, and most of Castillo's lands for body punches, I don't know if Floyd's mobility was compromised but it was clear he couldnt counter and fight inside as effectively as he wanterd to. And I believe it is the only time Compubox has not favored Floyd, maybe the other time it was as close, but still in Floyd's favor, was when Floyd fought Jesus Chavez I believe before Shields stopped the fight.

 

this is true, i was just making the point that the numbers arent reliable...i was just saying that its quite conceivable that someone be dominated in the compubox stats and actually win a fight...maybe not the war, but the fight....but yes it is the only fight i can recall that he did not dominate the punchstats.

 

Castillo beat UglyBoy's ass first time!!!
That's why GayWeather WILL NEVER FIGHT MARGO OR WILLIAMS!!!
These two got similar pressure fighting style as Castillo, but they are bigger, stronger and tougher then Castillo, and got very, very durable chins!!!
So, that *** only came back cause these two are not in the division right now!!!
But I'm sure Sugar-dude can pull it off, just need to bring Nazim Richardson with him!!!

 

Right you are. Personally, I'd have to leave out the slanderous names against Floyd, but the general idea is spot on. I believe this is EXACTLY why Floyd never faced Margarito. Margarito HAD the perfect style to beat Floyd. Not only did Margarito have the perfect blueprint to follow Castillo's gameplan, but he had the same blueprint on a larger scale, with a better chin, endurance, and cement hands (literally). I believe Floyd is much stronger now than he was then, as well as a little smarter, more clever, creative and a tad bit more skilled, so I think he would dominate Margarito today. Still, let's face it, he is brilliant for choosing the path he chose.

As for the fight itself (the first one, Floyd got him the second time around), Castillo damaged him with pressure, pressure and more pressure. Those compubox stats make perfect sense, however accurate or inaccurate. They summarize the fight real well. Castillo landed punches wherever he could land them, which apparently racked up compubox numbers, while Floyd landed crisp, clean, definitive punches that, in this particular case, caught the eyes of the three judges that happened to be there that night. At the time, I saw the fight very close to even (I sure as hell didn't see it 116-111, 115-111, 115-111, and what's funny is that the scores in the second fight were much closer, as if they were trying to make up for the lopsided scoring in the first one), but the majority of people I talked to afterwards thought Castillo downright won that fight. Aside from Castillo winning the compubox battle, he also came forward the whole night while Floyd backpedalled. Of course, a couple different circumstances that have already been mentioned above gave Floyd some disadvantages, but I don't see how that should reflect the judges scoring, as if they were scoring it with a handicap in mind. I know the thread isn't about all this, but I just had to get it in there.

Back to the topic....I seriously doubt anybody ever came anywhere near Floyd's compubox output in any other fight, but if I had to throw one out there, maybe De La Hoya?