Is corner advice useless?

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  1. ranser

    ranser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is corner advice most of the time useless..
    When the guy is better than you, that's it .He is better than you.
    Regardless of what your trainer says, it's not going to make you a better boxer magically and all of a sudden have skills that are needed to defeat your opponent.It's the gym work that you do that counts.

    Ok , there maybe times when your trainer really pumps and phsycs u up to win, e.g teddy atlas in the corner of michael moorer vs holyfield, or in real rare situations, a trainer might tell u to try something and it does work, however it is very rare that something like this happens.

    Most trainers don't even give smart intelligent advice anyway.
    It's always, use your jab, double up..keep your hands up. all general basic ****..

    I have been in a situation when my trainer gave me advice in a fight that I was losing, yet didn't make a difference to the way I fought.
     
  2. andriy

    andriy Active Member Full Member

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    it can be useless.
    its as useless as the trainer makes it. but also remember that the corner also advises during the fight, not just between rounds.
     
  3. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think we have seen quite a few examples of poor advice....but the corner can also pick up things going wrong in your attack and defence that you cant see in the ring.
     
  4. Max Power

    Max Power Member Full Member

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    That's the problem right there. I always thought this was BS.
    Tell a fighter jab,jab,right, hook - utter garbage.
    A fight is fluid. That is concrete advice.
    What if you're bailed up against the ropes and you try to tie him up or turn him? jab,jab,right, hook? Thanks coach.

    The advice of a corner should be calm calculated reinforcement.
    You have done the work in the gym, but in the heat of the moment you may forget get some of the subtle points you have worked on.
    Trainers (or anyone) have a different perspective from those in the ring.
    Even if you know more than your trainer, it can help to have a different perspective, or just a calming voice.
    If you are getting the worst of it and feeling overwhlemed, a calm calculated word from your trainer can get your mind settled and get you back on track.

    Basically, it comes down to the trainer AND the fighter
     
  5. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    The best is when you see a trainer telling his fighter come the last round that he is losing and needs the ko..

    When that advice may of been alittle more useful several rounds earlier..

    The best advice i ever got was if you dont start throwing punchers you are walking home..Im from Sydney's west and i was fighting in Canberra...Knowing my trainer who also drove the pcyc bus is as mad as a cut snake i didnt hesitate come the next round and ended up winning on points..
     
  6. bushboy

    bushboy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calm communication is the key, any more then 10 seconds advice can be useless for a guy who is more worried about catching his breath and having a drink.
    When you see a trainer on fox sports giving a prelim fighter 40 second long detailed plans of attack you just know that hes not taking it in.
     
  7. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    Thats why i dont mind Paul Briggs as a trainer.He gives short and sharp advice..
     
  8. ranser

    ranser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ull also find that advice tends to get repetitive round after round, and less and less every round, instead of adding something new.
     
  9. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    Katsidis is one of my favourite fighters but his corner advice is awful. When getting pounded against Diaz, Smith said "Mike just keep doing what your doing, its working great"

    Nazim Richardson is one to listen to... watch some Mosley and B-Hop tapes, he give sound tactical advice and picks opponent flaws
     
  10. ranser

    ranser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he must have been blind not to know Katsidis was behind on the cards.
     
  11. 20a87

    20a87 Boxing Addict banned

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    Theres a gp productions video I saw on the brit forum on nazim it highlights your point perfectly.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3KWnwF_ljk&feature=channel[/ame]
     
  12. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's truth in most of the above posts IMO. Usually calm, calculated but not set in concrete instructions, and not too many of them, are the order of the day.

    But there's a time and a place for the inspiring, raise the hairs on your neck type address that really includes no technical instruction at all (eg Johnny Lewis with Jeff Harding pre round 12, 1989).
     
  13. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    Totally agree.
     
  14. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bad corner advice.....choc v Siaca

    I remember just before the start of the 11th round Tony said to choc....your in front on the cards...just dont get hit...choc ran 11 and 12 and lost on SD points :patsch
     
  15. 20a87

    20a87 Boxing Addict banned

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    What about the clown that popped up during the medley fight telling choc to ko him or something then mundine shouted "im whippin his arse" or something like that