is cotto worthy of hall of fame?

Wattup Uli.

i disagree, but maybe not as much as id like to. Im not sure if Cotto gets in, but i think hes only a few fights away.

Its the HOF, not the hall of the all time great.

Would you like me to now list names besides ali, duran and SRL that are in the HOF that would sound just as silly as 'miguel cotto' being next to them?

Last i heard on the subject, 'Gatti' should be going in....

Let me just say this, if Cotto doesnt get in.... then theres a bunch of people in the past that shouldnt have gotten in, and Gatti when his time comes sure as hell shouldnt get it.

And 'very weak' era of boxing? Come on Uli, man... this is a very good era in welterweight boxing. Mayweather, Pac, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, then a rung below you got Clottey, Berto, Collazo
ya their not tito, hoya, srl, or hearns... so what, doesnt mean this is a 'very weak' era.

just my opinion i suppose, hope your doing good uli havnt seen you around much :thumbsup

 

in this day and age titles dont hold the same meaning as they used to... its about resume, and quality of opponents faced, not titles.

If Gomez had won some sort of eliminator for a title, and was a 'champion', more likely called titleholder.... would it mean more for cotto to beat him, or a beltless mosley who just came off spanking collazo?

people need to have a bit of deductive reasoning when assessing ones career... and it should be done with how many top 10 fighters one beats, what greats did they beat, how did they perform, ect, ect.

Id rather have 4 or 5 top 10 opponents and 1 great fighter on my resume then 4 otherwise meaningless titleholders.

It just so happens that the people he fought at the time didnt have titles, doesnt mean it makes beating quintana, mosley, clottey, ect any less meaningful. in this day and age where OFTEN a fighter has to DITCH a belt to even MAKE the meaningful fights, its absurd.

 

Hey whoo.... although i disagree slightly here and there, you make good points and a good post, i too think cotto doesnt QUITE have the longevity to go in if i was the one making the decisions, but i also wouldnt let a lot of other people in, and cotto would be close for me i cant lie. But even though i slightly disagree with you you made good points and a good post :good

 

I am a huge Cotto fan but there are fair points as to why Cotto doesnt get into the hall, and its not just about losses. Read Whoos post, i disagree with some of it but it gives a good account of a rational, intelligent responce as to why a non biased person wouldnt let cotto in at this point in time.

Mosley has 5 losses, yes.... but he also has had a very long career, competed with the best, and has only lost to the best, completely dominated the lower weight classes and has had some very good wins, and is still going strong.

i wouldnt say that most people denying cotto's entry are haters.... i personally have it close but i can see peoples point.

btw welcome to esb lol