Is Crawford a H2H beast historically?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I feel like, at 35 years old, we've seen Crawford in his prime and against the best of the world. With the knowledge we have of him currently, would you rate him strongly as a H2H fighter historically? Why or why not?
     
  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    A lot of people are going to say no and there are reasons to think that. I'm going the other way. Bud has fantastic skills. He can box smoothly, he can hit with power and he can box at a high level as a righty or a southpaw. Add all of this to a high level ring IQ and you have a tough fighter in any era.
     
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  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    No disrespect to Crawford IMO it's too early to draw these conclusions. I enjoyed watching his last win, and he boxed with no or minimal mistakes.
    I think that in this case both "Sugar" say "knock, knock".
    But I'm not really an expert on boxing.
     
  4. J.edwards_

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    I think his skillset is massively overrated, to be honest.
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hard to say really his resume isn't that good and hes only fought one stand out name in Spence who alot of people say hasn't been the same since car crashes.

    Crawford certainly looks the part but had he been around in the 90s with tougher opposition like ODLH, Quartey, Trinidad, etc. We could've found out more about him in regards to H2H.

    Right now there is only Ennis to test Crawford at Welterweight who himself looks good but is untested against elite opposition.
     
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  6. Mickea4

    Mickea4 Active Member Full Member

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    Hasn't been in with enough good fighters to know how he would do against some of the greats
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    An exgellent fighter who has ,for the most part fought moderate opposition.
    He isnt a H2H beast against
    Rovinson
    Gavilan
    Griffith
    Rodriguez
    Napoles
    Curry
    Delahoya
    Trinidad
    But he would hold his own against most. imo.
     
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  8. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Getting badly wobbled by a tiny Gamboa, dropped by EK, countered/outboxed in spurts by a one-legged Benavidez, and blasting through the drained corpse of Spence?

    Nah, he ain't no H2H monster.
     
  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think at 135 and 140 yeah he very well may be.

    At 147 I think he's in the mix but I'm not sure I would say "H2H beast" because there's some real WW killers I think would push his wig back.. I think there's some top fighters he'd beat historically though but WW is probably the deepest division in history.
     
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  10. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Absolutely ****ing not.

    He was a straight up weight bully at 140lbs and under, even at 147lbs he's huge.

    Best wins at 147lbs:
    -shot Khan via nut cracker
    -shot and skeletal drained Brook.
    -part-time Porter who was winning for many before fishy towel thrown in by his Dad (likely paid off to save huge fight with Spence). Porter retired literally after Crawford.
    -Drained, past it Spence who had 1 fight in 30 months. That fight he almost got knocked out by old Ugas who recently got schooled by Barrios.

    You're just simply stupid if you rate Crawford high after these wins.

    It is undeniable that he has not demonstrated his skill against an elite prime opponent (or even top level).
     
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  11. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I do think he would have beaten De La Hoya, Curry, Griffith and Trinidad. I don't believe any of the others would have had an easy time with him.
     
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  12. AngryBirds

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    Undoubtedly when it comes to skills, Crawford is a once in a generation type of guy. Since Floyd left the game, Crawford has taken up the mantle as the most skilled.
     
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  13. BoxingIQ

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    Shakur, Ennis, Morrell, Loma, Bivol, Usky, and Bam are more skilled than Crawford imo. Crawford is basically a more rugged Lara who has benefitted from circumstance
     
  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pbf would have made easy work outta crawfish.
     
  15. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    I don't know. I like how he fights. Always have. But he was the bigger guy in all of his fights. I think with same day weigh ins and a magnitude fewer divisions he's facing the Fab 5 but is only bigger than 2 of them. Might have to go 15 on top of that. I don't know. He's mean enough. He seems to have the work ethic. Hard to tell. Ask again in 10 years.