Is Crawford and Spence Generational Talents?

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  1. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Active Member Full Member

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    I would say so. H2H from 130 to 140, I think Crawford is 50/50 against all fighters who fought in those weight classes. Same thing for Spence at 147. Hell, I would make the argument that if they would've fought in manny and Floyd's era, they would be the two best fighters in their era. Crawford is a tremendous boxer who is arguably the best switch-hitter of all time, and Spence is one of those old-school fighters who has the will to put in on the line. When they retire, I think they will be remembered in this same class as the Fab 4 and Floyd and Manny. Thoughts?
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I have a bomb, therfore your argument is invalid
     
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  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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  4. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Active Member Full Member

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    I don't understand.
     
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  5. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    I like both fighters and I could see them hanging with people like Oscar,Tito, Mosley, Cotto and maybe on a GOOD night Floyd and Manny. Not saying Bud or Spence win but to say they wouldn’t be competitive is a bit harsh.
     
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  6. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Is you like stoopid or something
     
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  7. JOKER

    JOKER CEO of the LDBWC Club Full Member

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    No.

    But Crawford and Spence have a better shot at beating a prime Floyd than a prime Manny. A prime Manny would put a serious beating on all three.
     
  8. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Active Member Full Member

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    What do you mean? Explain?
     
  9. BoxingIQ

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    Based on what????
     
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  10. JOKER

    JOKER CEO of the LDBWC Club Full Member

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    Based on Spence being taken into deep waters by a damaged and drained Brook. Based on Crawford being badly outboxed and hurt by a pint-sized Gamboa in the first hald, getting lit up and dropped by a nobody in EK, and taken into deep waters by a high mileage Porter that was thinking retirement heading into the fight.
     
  11. BoxingIQ

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    Some would argue that prime Oscar beats Floyd and Manny
     
  12. BoxingIQ

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    But Floyd never fought anyone as great as Spence and Crawford
     
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  13. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan KC ATR: 29-5 SR: 29-5 Full Member

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    If only there were still an active fighter Floyd fought... Oh, I know. I'd love to see one of them vs Canelo. Floyd was past his prime, they're in their prime, so this is even a generous match up. Plus Mayweather had to go up 4 divisions from his original division to fight Canelo, Spence would only have to go up 3. Seems fair to me.
     
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  14. JunlongXiFan

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    Some people snort coke daily and wear pantyhose. Same people.
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    no. i would put them in between the leonards and hearns, and the starlings and browns of the division. they would give the atg's a decent scrap, but would lose. they would be around prime pac level at ww, maybe a bit tougher.
     
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