Is Crawford too small for Canelo ?

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  1. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    Today he posted his weight.. he is currently 186lbs.. that's 18lbs above the SMW limit :lol:
     
  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Too small, no. Size is one of the few areas Crawford exceeds or at least meets Canelo on an even playing field.

    Crawfords got other problems to worry about, like the fact that Turki just signed Canelo to a four fight deal.

    I'd be shocked if they allow Crawford a decision win. Bivol slapped Canelo around ten rounds to two and barely scraped out a 115-113 "close decision"

    Now if GGG couldn't stop Canelo, not sure a thirty-eight year old Crawford will be able to.
     
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  3. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    The fact Canelo isn't particularly tall for his weight kind of makes the playing field closer.

    Bar Mayweather and Bivol, Crawford may be the most technical fighter Canelo will have fought.
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    The size diff between Nelo and Bud is much smaller than Usyk and Fury.
     
  5. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Crawford's walking around weight isn't going to help him here as he is used to fighting smaller guys. I can't see him having much luck jumping another 2 weight classes to fight the best guy in the division.
     
  6. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah size aside... whenever Canelo stepped up to fight a top p4p skill level boxer... he lost... badly
     
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  7. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While this is technically true, this isn't a meaningful comparison because of diminishing returns. 14 lbs is much more meaningful between a 154lber and a 168lber, than two big guys over 220lbs.

    Perfect example is Rigo jumping from 122 to 130 to challenge Loma. It's technically "only" 8 lbs difference but in reality at that lower weight class it's a huge difference to overcome. Same as Mikey moving "only" 12 lbs from 135 to 147 to challenge Spence. Kell Brook, 13 lbs from 147 to 160 for GGG etc.

    Even though Bud isn't a small 154lber, moving up 2 weight classes to fight the best 168 lber who is accustomed to fighting 168 and 175lb guys in recent years is the same as Rigo, Mikey, Brook. It never ends well.
     
  8. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    And that's an understatement. The 50 lbs difference between Usyk and Fury was like if a featherweight was facing off against a light heavyweight.
     
  9. JusABoxinFan

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    Not sure how Canelo signing a 4 fight deal is something Crawford needs to worry about. Crawford is one of the first fighters that Turki embraced and supported whole heartedly. The decision of this fight is not going to sway in the favor of Canelo because of some deal he has with Turki. It's going to be based on the performance given by both fighters. Bivol nor GGG fight like Crawford so comparing their performances to what Crawford may or may not be able to do makes zero sense. Canelo took 4/5 rounds to figure out how to slow Amir Khan down, who is smaller than Crawford. It took Crawford 2 minutes. Porter and Spence went 12 rounds with one knock down between the both of them. Crawford had 19 rounds, 5 knockdowns, and 2 stoppages combined vs the 2.

    Styles create the action in the ring. I'm not saying Crawford stops Canelo or anything like that. Just saying, his style is a different than those other foes.
     
  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there do seem to be some diminishing returns after 200lbs or so. Look what Joe Louis did to the giants he faced.
     
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  11. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. I can see Canelo having a hard time with Crawford just down to their styles.

    Against top competition Canelo tends to over rely on his counters and waits too much. Floyd took full advantage of this and beat Canelo to the punch every time to take control of the fight. Bivol also took advantage of this against Canelo.

    I think Crawford like Mayweather and Bivol is a good enough ring general to control the pace of the fight and decision Canelo.
     
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  12. Serge

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    He posted a photo of himself weighing 177lbs seven years ago where be had to lose 30lbs in order to get down to 147 and he hadn't even fought at that weight yet at that time

    Now he weighs 186lbs

    I've been saying since talk of this fight happening first started that the size difference between them is nowhere near what people think it is and how after seeing how much Crawford weighed for his 154 debut I could also see him coming in at 175 against Clenelo at 168 and still being very lean.

    How do I know this? Because I've seen him weighing at least 170 five years ago and he looked super lean without an ounce of fat on him.

    Seen him weighing 177 five years ago, again looking really lean with no fat on him whatsoever.

    Seen him in the ring weighing 0.2 ounces under 170, again looking really lean with zero fat on him which is the same weight as what career 160 GGG used to weigh in the ring

    He's always been a big guy and even walking around at 180 or more he always looks in shape and never remotely fat or bloated in the face which is not the case for many other fighters who walk around much heavier than their ring weight. Even if they don't look fat their faces look very noticeably fuller or bloated or a bit bloated

    And 175 is a conservative estimate too. I'm not saying he will weigh more than that but I wouldn't be in the least but surprised if he did.

    Even if he weighed what he did at 154, which agaib was his debut at that weight, the weight difference between them will be 8-10lbs with Crawford having a big reach advantage. But the chances are he will come in significantly heavier than that and the difference could well be as little as 3-5lbs not the 25lbs or more some are claiming or believe it will be. Not even remotely close to that at all

    I get that he's jumping up 2 weight classes and Clenelo has been fighting at 168 against natural 168 pounders, and a few huge ones, for a long time now but if David is not much smaller than Goliath it's simply not a David vs Goliath scenario

    Usyk vs these HW giants very much is

    Rigo vs Loma was considered one when Loma weighed about 9lbs more than Rigo whilst being at a 2" reach disadvantage but Loma not only fought someone in just his 2nd pro fight who outweighed him by 11lbs but he's routinely giving away at least as much weight at 135 as Rigo was against him and often more or even a lot more with the addition of very often also giving away huge amount of reach too

    Loma giving away 20lbs and almost six inches in reach to Haney and routinely giving away 10-15lbs at 135 but not a goddamn peep about size from many, let alone talk of David vs Goliath size disparities

    Hell, he barely looked significantly bigger than Inoue when they stood next to each other despite the fact they were fighting 5 divisions apart at the time

    We heard all the talk about Madrimov being much bigger than Crawford before they fought too but I told everyone this was not the case at all and that I wouldn't be surprised if he weighed more than Madrimov and I was bang on the money again.

    Sure it was only by a pound but it was his 4th weight class for goodness sake and Madrimov is a career 154 pounder and Crawford looked super lean at that weight
     
  13. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member banned Full Member

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    And Turki's involvement and backing might ensure he actually does get the decision.
     
  14. GGGfans

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    He previously posted photos at 177 in 2018.
    Boxers are almost all 15lbs heavier outside of the fight period.
     
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  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    No. They are similarly sized men. You could say that Canelo is more accustomed to fighting at higher weights. That's about it. Look at them both in real life, they are about the same.