is crolla destined to stay at domestic level

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  1. WhamBam

    WhamBam Keeping Cool Full Member

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    Allot of ppl had high aspirations for this kid, he was named the most improved british fighter of the year, since then he lost to matthews and lost in prize fighter (no one should look too deep into it). For me he's going to spend another couple of years chasing after a british title, i doubt he'll ever be ready for guys like rees or burns. as improved as he's become i doubt he'll cut it above euro level
     
  2. Smoggy7188

    Smoggy7188 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watching him he seems to be caught between weights and style. Also, watching him fight im certain there is something wrong with his stance, he is wide open to the uppercut all the time. he is still young so i wouldnt write him off yet, win a world title - maybe.
     
  3. Marlow

    Marlow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was an unlucky stoppage against Matthews and you can't judge the lad on a 3 round fight with Sykes.

    Ideally i'd like him to fight Sykes and Matthews again next year, domestically the scene is thriving, Mitchell needs to rebuild, the emergence of Terry "Mr Charisma" Flannigan, John Murray is still in the mix and Liam Walsh.

    There's so many fights to be made and Crolla has a shot in all of them.
     
  4. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I don't count any Prizefighter loss against a fighter, because the format is a complete pile of ****. That would normally have been a ten or twelve rounder and Crolla's more economical style doesn't favour him in a three threes as it does a volume guy like Sykes.

    Awful concept, awful tournament and does nothing to widen interest in the sport, IMO.
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Until he corrects some pretty obvious flaws in his style, he will stay at domestic level and lose as often as he wins, against good fighters.

    I have it on decent authority (having not met him) that he's a really good lad, smart too.... yet in recent fights he's shown the ring IQ of a novice.

    Flaws that I've noticed recently....

    His guard is too high and tight
    He squares up way too much
    He's wide open to the uppercut
    His footwork is gash
    He's got next to no head movement
    He doesn't look to draw leads and counter

    Wait... he's a Gallagher fighter :-(

    JG looked like he was becoming a really astute trainer a couple of years ago, but for some bizarre reason all his lads are fighting the same, ******ed style lately, being nailed with hard shots all night.... several of them have suffered KO losses against opponents that aren't exactly murderous punchers.

    There's pressure fighting, the Chavez way, then the Hatton way, then the punchbag way. It's time they watched a bit of footage and did their homework, before one of them gets badly hurt.
     
  6. tommyd107

    tommyd107 Gambler Full Member

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    Gotta say a thought he'd be alot further on than he is, defo think he needs to move down a weight, i'm not saying he can't battle it out but when he gets into this type of fight he seems to be overpowered look at last night i was worried for my bet from the jennings fight then sykes just just took it to him, he wouldnt last 3 rounds with rees...

    And again as youve all stated his stance is far to square hence uppercut, guard to high etc..

    Still if he move down works on these could be great little fighter maybe a move in training camps would suit>?
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At one point, I thought Crolla would get beyond European level but he seems to have gone backwards. I like him a lot but things just aren't working for him at the moment, so I hope there are some changes. In the first fight yesterday, he showed how good he can be but he has problems against well applied pressure which flared up against Sykes.
     
  8. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Yeah, probably. Quite sad because Crolla seems like such a great kid and that stoppage against Derry was bull****.
     
  9. BoxingAnalyst

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    I believe so, although Prizefighter really doesn't suit his style, Crolla gets better as fights go on, I'd like to see him back down at 130.
     
  10. Bill C84

    Bill C84 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Gallagher has shown his limits as a trainer, a lot was made out of his 49 fight unbeaten run or whatever it was, its ok fighting the way he teaches at a lower level and when everything's stacked in your favour, it's a different story when you step up in class and things are evened out.

    Reckless pressure is nothing to be proud of and if your the one teaching it then you should be downright ashamed of yourself.
     
  11. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like prizefighter shows but I dont read much into it when a fighter loses in one.
    Crolla is at a point now where he needs to take a risk ,he needs to get in with a big name even if he is the bloke getting brought in to supposedly get beat. If he dont make a move like that he is destined to stay at domestic level.Nothing wrong with that but he is a fighter who looks like he at least deserves a chance to try take it a bit further.
     
  12. Makingweight

    Makingweight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Crolla to me is certainly with the wrong trainer talented fighter but when you are fighting to a gameplan that doesn't suit your style you are struggling from the start against more evenly matched opponents.

    When you have the tools of a nice punch & move style but are trained to walk forward straight lines hands up around your face walking down opponents when you don't carry the required power how are you going to improve?

    Good trainers add to the skills a fighter has to train all your fighters the same way tells you all you need to know.

    Prizefighter has run it's course not a big fan of it on a number of levels but the 32K pot tempts & shows you what domestic level fighters are paid.:roll:
     
  13. Trickster

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    Absolutely spot on. I don't mind it so much with the likes of John Murray and Paul Smith because I think that style is probably most effective for them, Macklin too. I've seen better from Crolla in the past though so it's disappointing to see him sticking the ear-muffs on and plodding forward, trying to slug it out. It doesn't suit him at all and if this is the only way Gallagher knows, Crolla needs to look elsewhere sooner rather than later IMO.
     
  14. wallworkjake123

    wallworkjake123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gallaghers fighters do fight the same way, but I really liked the gameplan they brought in for the Quigg/Munroe fight. I know it only went two rounds but Quigg was looking good IMO, and I picked Munroe to win.
     
  15. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Agree with this.:good