Is Danny Jacobs a real world champion who deserves better than 25/75 against GGG?

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Is Danny a real world champion who deserves a better split ?

  1. Yes, the Regular champ is legit, 25/75 is despicable

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  2. No, he's just a glorified no1 contender

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  1. lufcrazy

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    Because of his dominance against other top ten MW fighters.

    The MW championship of the world.
     
  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Well he's a mando and mandatory challengers get 25%. That's the way it is. Perhaps that should change overall but not especially for Jacobs. My point is that they were never up for fighting December 10th despite claiming that they were. They were hoping Golovkin would fight someone else on that date and then they could of claimed they were the wronged party and thus had a right to take another interim fight.

    I didn't think Povetkin deserved a better split against Wilder despite the fact he was the money man in that fight and arguably the more proven fighter too. Jacobs made his extra money milking that BS title for all its worth whilst masquerading an actual world champion.

    Everyone likes to throw around the a-side/b-side stuff when Golovkin is the b-side but when he's the a-side, not so much.
     
  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sugar. The man is an interim champ and took out Quillin. 25% is just not right. It doesn't even sound right when you mention Jacobs name. GG is still the A side over Jacobs so I don't see why he wouldn't want the fight. 25% is just not right. Rules or not.
     
  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Do you think Povetkin deserved a bigger slice of the pie against Wilder?

    Re. Quillin, Jacobs was paid well for that fight despite it not beings or a bonafide wold title against a guy who bolted from a career high purse from Matt ****ing Korobov. It's a decent win but I can guarantee if Golovkin had beat him it would have been relegated to being a poor win against someone who had never really beaten anyone of note.
     
  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What makes you say he deserves more? Between the two, 3G is the one who's sold out venues that Jacobs hasn't, even in NY where Jacobs is from. 3G, even with his thin resume,still has a better one then Jacobs. Not to mention, 3G is the champ between the two, Jacobs only his contender. 75-25 gives Jacobs the opportunity to be the champion of the division, and an even bigger star. It'as there if he wants it.
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

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    Povetkin took the fight to a purse bid. He got the fight at home. All I'm saying is that Jacobs deserves more because he's not someone who has not been tested. He has been tkod in a title bout, beat a top contender...and became the interim champ.
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Jacobs would be having this fight at home! The plan was to have it at the Garden. And didn't K2 announce that it was going to purse bid?

    And I don't agree that Povetkin is someone who hasn't been tested. Povetkin was the tested fighter and also the money fighter. Yet nobody cared. I don't think your POV on that makes much sense. If you think Povetkin deserved a bigger share then cool, I can see where you're coming from but if you don't then the best you hope to look is misguided and inconsistent.
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

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    I wasn't talking about Povetkin not being tested. A fight where he should've taken the fight in the US for that 25% he took it to a purse bid.

    Jacobs is worth more than 25%. That's my point. That's why he wanted more money. It isn't to duck the fight like people believe. I dont know if the fight would be in New York. Rico Spadafora said that GG wanted it in LA.
     
  9. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is Jacobs worth more? He has an even worse resume then 3G.
     
  10. Robney

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    Usually when there's a super champion in place the regular one is nothing more than the #1 contender. You can't have 2 legit world champions in the same organization.
    There are a few exceptions though. If the regular belt is created to keep a dangerous contender away from the super champion (happened a lot in the past) I actually consider him the only legit champ and the ducker the fraudulent belt holder.

    For example if Golovkin had actually ducked Jacobs in this case, and the WBA just let him because he's a star, I would consider Jacobs the actual WBA champion from that point on.

    But under "normal" circumstances (if you can still call it that in this case) the regular isn't a champion.
     
  11. BlizzyBlizz

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    This doesn't come down to resume. We know all of the factors. I don't expect anyone known like Jacobs to make 25% as an interim champ. GG and his people can up the percentage. GG can pay that man more than that. Canelo asked for what is perceived as unfair but well within the limits of the mw division...unfair conditions and GG said no. Jacobs is saying no to 25% basically. I don't want this to turn into another fighter ducking GG thing. GG's legacy is not going anywhere. We want to see GG in a fight even if he has to pay that man a lil bit more than 25%.
     
  12. LANCE99

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    First of all, Jacobs isn't all that known to begin with. If it doesn't come to resume, what does it come to? 3G is the champion here, and the one who's been able to sell out his venues. Jacob's belt in this case, might as well be non-existent.

    canelo's "offer" was seen as a joke because it's a fight that would take place at least a year from when the offer came. I've told others, NO ONE makes serious offers like that.

    What other realistic fights w/ Jacobs have if he dismissed the 3G fight? Who's there for him?
     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

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    You guys are saying the right things because technically you're correct-technically.

    I'm not talking about the year from now offer. Canelo wanted 155 and GG said no and Canelo vacated. We know why Canelo vacated.

    Now GG is the A side card, but this fight isn't going to get made over 25%. It'll be called another duck by GG's fans and his legacy will suffer. We are tired of watching GG in these side show fights. We are tired of hearing that guys are ducking GG.
     
  14. LANCE99

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    What about Jacob's legacy? As it stands, he's already worse off then 3G. And he doesn't have any other realistic options at 160 does he? If 3G's team give in to a higher percentage, that's fine. If not, it's still Jacobs' team who will ultimately be responsible for the fight falling through.
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

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    You know what. Imma stop siding with what I and a lot of others think is right. If you think that GG is in a good place, so be it. If Jacobs only deserves 25% so be it. You can only go so far saying everyone is ducking GG. If you're happy with his legacy I am too. History will be he judge in the end. You don't want to be known more for fights that didn't happen more than fights that did happen.