Is David Haye out of his depth against Klitschko ?

Haye have a punchers chance, and thats about it! But Wlad is a more naturel HW, bigger, stronger, have more power, and all in all a better fighter IMO.. Only his chin is to question here!

But Haye doesn`t have a strong chin either, and his stamina usually sucks! I think you have to be a bit delusional to favor Haye in this fight!

 

I'm not actually basing my opinion of his stamina on the Thompson bout. And when he says that he is prepared to fight 12 rounds, there is one thing saying it, and another thing doing it. An example being in the Ruiz bout, his workrate was much higher than that in the Valuev bout...and you could see he was doing his best to recover in the corner after each round. Maybe this is why he came in lighter against Audley...

Anyway, I don't think Haye lasts over 12 with either Klitschko...Valuev didn't force him to punch, both Klitschko's will. If he doesn't get Wlad out of there early, I don't see him picking up a decision.

 

Also, I'd like to point out, whilst I dont think Haye's stamina is great, I dont think its bad as what people make out, that said, what I worry for Haye, is that in the middle portion of the Ruiz fight, he was hit with punches he should't of been hit with, which to my says something about his reflexes getting slower as he starts to tire, which should be a worry for him, that said, I think Wlad's stamina is as suspect as Haye's, but that he's more economical with his output.

 

I don't think his stamina is terrible, I just think he throws way too much into his punches, and needs time to recover. He has knockout power so it's understandable that he goes for the knockout, but he then leaves himself open like you said. Steward will have seen the exact thing you pointed out about his reflexes, and once Haye has that one big blowout (assuming he can't get Wlad out of there)...that's when Wlad will let his hands go a bit. Then next round...repeat.

Haye will only last so many rounds if the bout continues like that.

 

Also, this is why I give him very little chance against Vitali. Vitali can take Haye's shots (I'm not saying Vitali can't be hurt or knocked out by the perfect punch though)...and then force him to work, tiring him in the process. Vitali would get Haye out of there earlier than his brother.

When both brothers agree saying Wlad will knock Haye out late, and Vitali will knock him out early...I genuinely think they know this. Wlad is too cautious, whereas Vitali is very much willing to trade.

 

Great point, very accurate to.

100% agree AnthonyW

Yeah there is something of the Froch about VK, he has that robustness, that durability, that consistency. I anticipate Haye would offset him early, as VK is not that great defensively on the front foot, and can be a bit mechanical, so Haye might be able land a few good shots on him, but its as you said, he has a good chin, and once he's weathered the danger, you betta believe he's gonna be trying to put it on you and wear you down with the consistent aggression he displays on the front foot.

 

Yeah definitely. Vitali seems a touch easier to land on at this point, Hayes speed would almost certainly help him land a couple clean shots early. But I just see Vitali walking threw them, making Haye work harder than ever...then stopping him via TKO.

 

Yeah.

Some reason people think he's deteriorated a lot, but whilst I agree his reflexes must of taken a significant hit due to age, look at the pace he set against Briggs, I think people overlook that, he was working the entire fight.

 

Before the Briggs bout, I thought Haye maybe had a good chance at pulling the upset. But then obviously the Briggs bout happened...


(Definitely gotta go now)...

 

haye has a shot. wlad is beatable. ko 3 times. one shot to the chin and it is ova.

 

WTF?! atsch:-(

The punk-ass Klits are waaaaaaaaay out of their pathetic depth against the top 10 ATG British warriour.

The Haymaker would make easy work of both of them simultaneously with one hand tied behind his back, so of course he's going to obliterate either of them within one or maybe (and this is a HUGE 'maybe') two horribly embarrasing rounds. Wake the **** up...Haye is King, whilst the *****-ass Klits aren't even peasants; they're the ****/**** from the rats living in the sewers under the peasants' shacks. :rofl

 

TKO 3 times. One shot to the chin has never taken him out, he's always gotten back up atsch

 

This post is sprinkled with wishful thinking..................:yep

 

Some shocking Haye nuthuggery going on in this thread.

 

Wlad Hits harder then Haye
Wlad has better footwork then Haye
Wlad has FAR better defense then Haye

While Haye does have fast hands.... many people are greatly underestimating Wlads hand speed..

I have heard guy after guy say.."I didnt realize Wlad Hands were so fast"

Haye is in for a beating:bbb