Is David Haye the biggest fraud in heavyweight history?

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  1. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    is David Haye a fraud...of course not but he makes a better cruiserweight than a heavy, what last nights fight did was highlight both fighters deficiencies in the ring and def showed why wlad should not be in a top 10 p4p list.
     
  2. David UK

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    The more successful the fighter the more hate seen on ESB
     
  3. pugilist64

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    Nah! A least a couple of dozen American fighters who challenged for the title. These jokers couldn`t even get in shape for their big chance. Too many doughnuts. :-(
     
  4. DrTrouble

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    See I disagree. I think if they fought 100 times, the result would be the same. That's just the style of the fighters. Haye looked amateurish and landed two meaningful shots in 12 rounds! So yea it's easy to say he could have tried to do more but it's highly unlikely it would have changed anything besides getting Haye KO'ed.

    Understand that Wlad did not allow Haye to do anything as apparent by all the flopping, lunging hay makers, and looking to the ref for help. Couple that with the fact Haye is too scared to take any chances and you will have a scenario where Haye will lose every time.
     
  5. MemoCan

    MemoCan *****49ers Express***** Full Member

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    Is he a fraud yes, but as a champion he's not the biggest. IMO that title belongs to Valuev. Thanks to Don King and the WBA, he was 3 wins away in tying or 4 wins from breaking Rocky's record of 49-0. They've always found a way to weasel out of a Klitschko fight. On top of that he was able to keep his belt even when he should of lost it to guys like Holyfield and Ruiz.
     
  6. gobblock

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    I can't say he's the biggest fraud ever. He is the biggest fraud self-propelled solely by ****-talk, though. His heavyweight career resembled that of a conman's more than that of a fighter's, and he's richer now after three years than most traditional conmen could ever hope to be after a lifetime. Until Klitschko, he'd faced softer competition than any cruiserweight coming up from heavyweight to challenge for a fringe title has in the past. This makes him an ATG in his own right.