Is David Haye the most skilled heavy at the division?

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  1. mdr40z

    mdr40z Member Full Member

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    I agree with this (along with size advantage) although I think skillwise Haye is second, maybe even a close second.
     
  2. Hay3maker

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    Klitshko bros are to robotic and like kessler all they have is power. Once they fight someone with that dynamic speed, power, movement and skill they would lose. Unfornatley for them Haye has all that and more.

    The only way I could see haye lose is if they score a lucky knockout because of hayes weak chin.
     
  3. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    That posting exposes you as a Haye nuthugger, sorry to say....
     
  4. Hay3maker

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    how when i said he has a weak chin?:patsch
     
  5. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad 47 KO's in 53 fights :dealand you think a ko would be luck against Haye?

    WOW:nut:rofl
     
  6. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am a big fan of Wladimir and would say he has the most effective style and the best ratio of skills to size. Eddie Chambers seems to be very proficient technically, different style, different set of skills.
     
  7. T.S.

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    Total bull****! The NFL and NBA were not born yesterday. They've been around for a 100 years and the pay scale has always been on the same par. I guess it's a coincidence that since the eastern block was opened up we see more eastern block fighters :nut Boxing has a much more global pool of talent pouring in. Do you know what the average career in the NFL is? Look it up I believe it's about two years. And tell me what NBA basketball player could translate into a Heavyweight Champion boxer? Who?
     
  8. T.S.

    T.S. T.Stout Full Member

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    Wlad and Vitali are on a level above every fighter in the Heavyweight division right now IMO
     
  9. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad by a mile.
     
  10. 4life

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    Nope, not even close.

    I think he is the most physically gifted, but as far as skilled, its Wladimir handsdown.

    For someone as chinny as wladimir to dominate ( with his brother ) the HW div. really says alot about his skills. The best HW jab ever, great movement, underrated defense.
     
  11. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have you heard of a sport called football? ;)
     
  12. 4life

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    I don't think "chin" and speed is a skill. It's either you have it or you dont. I do agree that vitali is very skilled and MAYBE more skillful than his brother. But whatever skillset Wlad has he EMPLOYS it very well. Plus he looks much more fluid than vitali. And no, haye does not come close to wlad and vitali's footwork. he might be very nifty but he looks very sloppy at times.
     
  13. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From a skills perspective Haye is lacking. But he makes up for that with his speed strength and power. But, if you're asking about his technical skills, they're not even top five. Poor footwork, drops his hands, bad balance, too many looping punches, hunches his shoulders and takes away his heigh even against smaller fighters, poor head movement for a fast fighter.
     
  14. bkamins

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    I'm not sure I'd label Wlad's jab the best ever. In fact, I'm sure I wouldn't. But it is clearly the best of his generation. By the way, Larry Holmes had the best heavyweight jab of all time.
     
  15. jdroy1986

    jdroy1986 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All they have is power?!?! :rofl Wow no I'd say that about David Haye b/c Wladimir is unbelievably fast, accurate and athletic for a guy his size. All Haye does is swing wide punches. We'll see how Haye does against the "robotic" klitschkos. If Valuev and Barrett can hit him believe me the Klitschkos will hammer him. If Barrett knocked down Haye, what do you think the K brothers will do?:think