Is Dawson proven?

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  1. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree if he beats B-Hop he gets Joe,sounds fair to me....
     
  2. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kessler was not beaten before fighting Calzaghe, so the argument
    that he is beaten now (by Calzaghe) is just funny. The only legitimate
    comparison is both Kessler and Dawson at the time they fight Joe.
    Dawson beat bigger names but was much less convincing in these.

    Tarver is very inconsistent as the legitimate contender (lucky KO over Jones,
    then struggling with Johnson and embarassing lose to Hopkins), Johnson
    is not less inconsistent than Tarver, Adamek was weight drained (he walks
    above 200lb now) and explored Dawson chin a little bit.

    So again: Dawson have bigger names but here are serious issues also.
    Kessler was more convincing at that time as the serious opponent.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You can invent any excuse you want in order to diminish Damwson's wins. The fact of the matter is, he's beaten stiffer comp than Kessler. Kessler's best win is Mundine, that's all you need to know about his level of comp. Anyone with two eyes can see who the better fighter is between the two.
     
  4. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i've got two eyes and i'm telling you you're wrong.

    instead of judging him why you dont you say why.........
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Because it's ridiculous for me to have to point out the obivious. Dawson is faster, has the better footwork, and better offensive variety. He's a better defensive fighter as well. Kessler is a solid fighter, no doubt about that. However, his offense is very predictable. I don't rate him very high defensively, and I believe and competent offensive fighter can lay hands on him.
     
  6. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beating better competition does not extend to be better fighter.
    Kessler before Calzaghe beat Mudine, Beyer and Andrade ...
    all top dogs and he beat them convincingly without any flaw.
    Dawson beat bigger names but he struggled with Johnson and
    was almost taken out by Adamek, not mention he is legitimately
    ducking Diaconu ... off course that is better resume but is not
    an indication of being better fighter.

    I'm not arguing that Kessler was better opponent to fight Calzaghe,
    I'm saying they are on SIMILAR HIGH-level, nothing more or less.

    Kessler was the carrier define win for Calzaghe and key to HOF gate,
    Dawson may be the key to secure ATG status.
     
  7. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but kessler has the better resume. the way things are going dawson's going to find out how good he really is before kessler anyway because he's backing himself to do it - and his managerial team are too.
     
  8. imp4pdabest

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    And he's not turning down fights or fighting tomato cans, unlike Kessler
     
  9. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i agree.

    but the sad thing about this is kessler wants these big fights.

    he just has a ***** promotional team since he lost to calzaghe and kessler needs to put 2 and 2 together like ricky hatton did and realise his promoter is just trying to milk him.
     
  10. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BULL****! :nono

    Prior to Roy Jones the only top ranking opponent to call him out was Mikkel Kessler.
     
  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Where did you check?
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Dawson has been trying to fight him since before the Kessler fight. Hopkins called him out after he beat Wright as well.
     
  14. nabisko

    nabisko Member Full Member

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    i think dawson has proven his name is in the discussion. he beat tarver and because tarver hasa rematch clause he will beat him again. He fought nose to nose with Glen J. some say he lost some say he won..he did more than joe C and at least took the fight. Dawson needs to be tested..only problem is the fighters that will test him the most dont seem to want to fight him
     
  15. LoveMuffin

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