Is De La Hoya overated?

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  1. TheSouthpaw

    TheSouthpaw Champion Full Member

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    I agree Flea..were only talkin about a few pounds here.
     
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  2. TheSouthpaw

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    Although I believe there was nothing Oscar could have done to beat Manny, The Trinidad fight I thought Oscar was given Tito a boxing lesson till around the 10th when DLH just started skating and running....What happened?
     
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  3. Flea Man

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    Look through the thread TheSouthpaw, sure it's had at least a fleeting moment in the spotlight :good
     
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  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Pea of the Chavez fight versus the Oscar of the Manny fight would be more embarrassingly one sided than the second Ramirez fight.
     
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  5. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Einstein, when you start your career at 133lbs,anmd end up fighting at middleweight, I`d say thats significant. Especially when I think Oscar`s best weight was 147...
     
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  6. Waynegrade

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    Good point
     
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  7. Waynegrade

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    But Oscar was never a true middle... To say he was anywhere near opitimum weight or timewise in his career is very innaccurate...
     
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  8. Waynegrade

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    Agreed, prime Whitaker is tough in ANY superfight... Oscar/PBF, always a close one even at respective primes. Although I think a prime Oscar would get after PBF a lot more than he did when they fought ...
     
    Waynegrade, Nov 13, 2012
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  9. TheSouthpaw

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    I know right..I didnt expect this many people to chime in on this, but ive learned alot I didnt know about Oscar!:yep
     
    TheSouthpaw, Nov 13, 2012
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  10. Flea Man

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    Slow down. I was replying to your post where you said Mosley was 'a lightweight moving up' as if Oscar loses more kudos for being the guy already at welterweight when he lost.

    I was pointing out that Mosley and De La Hoya were well-matched for size and Mosley was hardly the smaller man jumping up two divisions.

    Where did Oscar going up to middleweight come into it you berk?
     
    Flea Man, Nov 13, 2012
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  11. TheSouthpaw

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    im not saying he was anywhere close to being a natural MW, and I agree his true legacy lies at 147 which was his bread and butter,..he didnt jump from LW to MW were talkin 147 to 154 to 160, there its just water weight probably. How much weight do you think Oscar was walkin around with when he fought Hopkins? And no he had no business fighting Hopkins he proved that
     
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  12. Flea Man

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    And that means it would be 'really close'?
     
    Flea Man, Nov 13, 2012
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  13. TheSouthpaw

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    Never a true middle, but all greats that come out of the WW division end up fighting heavier before there career comes to an end, DLH got to big for his britches.
     
    TheSouthpaw, Nov 13, 2012
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  14. TheSouthpaw

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    Very close!
     
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  15. Waynegrade

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    Lets face it guys, Whitaker would be a ***** for anyone to fight... Talk about trying to pin the tail on the donkey !
     
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