Is Denis Boystov EVER gonna step it up

Boystov would get slaughtered right now by the Klitschko's and Haye.

Haye's lateral movement and speed would be like nothing he's ever seen before. And he's far too hittable to even consider getting in the ring with the Klitschkos.

However, he will take some punishment to get inside, and he has an alright punch, so likely Vitali will fight him first and destroy him, then Wlad will get the left overs, but people will be on Wlad's nuts.

But the division is so bad, that Boystov could probably hang with Povetkin and maybe even Chambers.

 

Agree on the Klitschko's but Haye? Haye can be in trouble by a Boytsov jab, and Haye's defence is shoddy at best. He'd be gun shy when the first punch landed. His lateral movement isn't all that either, as he doesn't punch on the move he just moves. Boytsov would smash him to bits, Haye never felt a punch like that.

 

Boystov has a decent enough record considering he's only 24, no need to rush him

 

well, i believe at this pace he will soon catch up with chavez Jr...

 

Boystov is too stiff and and straight up and down to land his jab effectively. Haye is very good at making himself a small target, and considering Boystov has fought no one like Haye, he would be in for a massive surprise when he steps in the ring and finds out how difficult it is to hit Haye.

Everytime Boystov throws his jab, he would be in danger of being countered with powerful right hands, strong enough to drop veterans like John Ruiz who no doubt is a class higher than Boystov at this time.

Haye has exceptional lateral movement. He is the only guy to win a fight with Valuev soley on the outside, despite giving up a huge height and reach advantage. Without Haye's lateral movement and upperbody movement, he would have been eating jabs all night and likely knocked out.

And Boystov has thudding power, not the kind of explosive power that Haye brings to the table. Boystov is more like a Vitali style of puncher, but to a lesser extent, and he's not particularly fast, and very easy to hit.

Boystov has also never felt anyone with near the power of Haye and even on the same statosphere regarding his speed.

I can see Boystov's size, strength, and weight possibly giving Haye problems, but I think Haye is savy, smart, and athletic enough to get out of the way and keep on the outside of his plodding opponent.

Boystov fights like he lifts too many weights. He's very stiff. That type of style doesn't deal well with speed and movement, especially when he is at a reach and height disadvantage.

Honestly, I don't really see anything special about this guy. I'm not sure what is to get excited about. When Klitschko was young for instance, it was easy to see why he could become a great fighter, but there is nothing dynamic about Boystov at all.

 

Haye didn't fight Valuev on the outside, he simply staid on the outside, period. There was no fighting taking place when he was running, he can't punch on the move. Haye is not a defensive wizard, even Ruiz hit him with right hands. If Boytsov lands his right, which is much faster and often thrown as a counter, Haye is done.

 

Come on man, I understand that there is a lot of criticism on this board due to Haye's actions, but I don't think that should diminish his tallent and his abilties in the ring.

He's a very skilled fighter.

And he was countering effectivly with right hands, using jabs to the body, throwing overhand rights, and left hooks.

But he also hurt his left hand in the fight, which made it hard for him to throw any punches at all. I tought he did a great job against Valuev considering his circumstances and his approach.

Boystov is a strong bullying fighter. He's not an explosive fighter. He's a stiff weightlifter that uses his size and strength to bully his opponents, and his punches are thudding bludgeoning blows, rather than explosive.

Ruiz has way more experience than Boystov. This is a guy that fought Jones, Toney, and Holyfield among many others.

Boystov has yet to fight anyone close that calibur. Even guys like Valuev and Johnson, are much better than guys that Boystov has been in the ring with.

Boystov is not ready for this step up, and honestly if he does step up, I don't see how his stiff, strongman style will get him very far. I mean, I understand the division is bad, but is it so bad that a stiff strongman can begin dominating skilled opponents?

 

The criticism i believe is because he was completley demolished by a super middleweight, who was 40 years old in just a few rounds!:yep

 

Boytsov vs Chagaev and Haye vs W. Klitschko must happen early next year, that's if Haye gets past Harrison first.

 

I had no idea Boytsov was that high in the WBA. Chagaev is Haye's mandatory and Boytsov should will probably fight the winner after that, nmot sure who it'll be though. I could see Ruslan taking that fight.

It's amazing that you spend that much time typing yet virtually nothing you said is accurate. All to hype up Haye and attempt to make Boytsov sound like ****.

For the bold, Boytsov is more explosive and just as fast as Haye. Not to mention that, while being smaller, he actually had the balls to fight at HW from day 1 as a 200lb 18 year old. If Haye gets past Chagaev, which is faar from a certianty, Boytsov will leave him worse than Frenkel left Macca.

 

No he wasn't really I scored the "fight" a draw, nothing effective about what he did at all. He threw 12 punches a round, the first 11 rounds could have been 10-10 rounds. He was running, that's not a good example of lateral movement, it's a marathon sideways.

His approach was to run and potshot, and he did a **** job at it. Some of his potshots were thrown scared, he was fleeing when he threw them. Some others were so wild, inaccurate and wide that even Valuev managed to duck them.

Boytsov has enough snap to break Haye's jaw in half. When he lands a right hand it sounds like he's using a bat, it's a fast and explosive punch. Haye will never face someone with that much power.

Ruiz was shot to bits.

What skilled opponents? Haye? Haye is a nobody at HW, I think he's perfect for a guy like Boytsov. He only has to land one punch to make him run for the rest of the fight, Boytsov may not be ready for a step up but that's fine because Haye isn't a step up.

 

That's all I have to say about this thread. I didn't say Haye was anything spectacular, but Boystov is nothing but a stiff strongman that can punch.

 

You think Boystov would beat Ruiz? With what? He is far too hittable, and you can see his shots coming. He's so stiff and predictable, Ruiz will easily disect him.

The only thing Boystov has going for him is his strength, but after using most of it to bully Ruiz in the clinches which will obviously happen, his muscles will fatigue, and Ruiz will have no problem landing his shots.

Boystov stands right in front of his opponents and his defense is terrible. He's also very square and lacks mobility. He's a slugger that stands straight up and down.

Haye would have a field day with this sort of opponent. He would have no trouble using his lateral mobility and pot shot him early on until Boystov realizes he is way behind in the cards and tries to get aggressive and then becomes even easier to hit as he lunges foward.

It's obvious that by how stiff he is and musclebound that his muscles will tire quickly if he tries to be too aggressive.

You're crazy if you see anything but power in this guy. He is a stationary slugger, and his hand speed is not fast. Who are you kidding?

 

And quit bringin up the fight with Bidenko. Bidenko made him look like **** in my opinion, and that guy has 1/4 of the lateral movement and skill that Haye brings to the table.

Even the TKO was unimpressive as Boystov was lunging foward and swinging all over the place.

Imagine Boystov in with a guy like James Toney.

James Toney would easily pick him apart because Boystov is a muscle bound unnatural boxer and would tire so easily that it wouldn't even be worth a fight.

And this is today's version of Toney.

David Haye doesn't have Toney's defense, but his defense is still good, and he has explosive power and very fast hands.

He's a nightmare matchup for a guy like Boystov.

The only think he has a puncher's chance due to Haye's chin.

That's it.

Not to mention he has no experience fighting anybody worth a damn.

 

So you are calling Boytsov musclebound but have no problem being a Haye fan despite his bodybuilding titties :think

And yes, Boytsov would beat the snot out of Ruiz. Stop with the lateral movement thing, Haye doesn't have it unless you mean running.