Is Deontay Wilder’s first win over Luis Ortiz overrated?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KINGWILDER, Nov 28, 2023.


Wilder’s win over Luis Ortiz in 2018 is:

  1. Massively overrated

  2. Slightly overrated

  3. Fairly rated

  4. Slightly underrated

  5. Massively underrated

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    No it's not overrated.

    Ortiz was somewhat avoided at the time, had never lost, and was a step up for Wilder.

    An Ortiz that was victim of multiple KOs and who was 4 years older gave an in shape and motivated Ruiz a competitive fight.

    I have little doubt an undefeated Ortiz that was 4 years younger (the one that fought Wilder) beats Ruiz.

    Ortiz 1 is a good scalp.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Kong barely lost a round in his career. In his twilight years he was better than most B & C levellers in their prime.

    He'd make mincemeat out of Arroela and Sam Peter types.
     
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  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz WAS a b & C leveller. HIs resume is thin itself. Now that doesn't mean I think it was a nothing win. Was at the lest a pretty good win for Wilder, due to his own sh!t resume as a 'titlist'. But shouldn't Ortiz have some big wins himself to distance himself from other top tenners??
     
    The Real Lance, Nov 29, 2023
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    His best win is either Charles Martin or Bryant Jennings, the former of whom is the only world champion he ever beat and Martin is one of the worst HW champions ever who won his belt on a fluke knee injury


    I told you all before that Fat Andy shedding all that super fat would destroy his punch resistance and in his very next fight he was dropped by a shot Arreola and nearly dropped another time.

    The Arreola fight destroyed his confidence and he subsequently fought like a female dog against Ortiz. When he didn't he dropped Ortiz because the later has a weak chin and has been dropped by every puncher he's fought which is very few indeed because his CV is totally devoid of them sans the guys who beat him and Martin

    He wasn't even on his PEDs when he was rabbit punched into submission by The Dosser, only after The Dosser's GP who was moonlighting as a ringside physician had been summoned over by the commission to grant The Dosser an extremely convenient and much needed time out for his head to clear

    Ortiz's head is a magnet for right hands, always was even going back to the amateurs.

    Hammer lighting him up with right hands

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    Watch what happens when Povernov realizes Ortiz's head is a magnet for right hands? He can't miss with his right and he even drops him with one but the ref chose not to call it

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    Serge, Nov 29, 2023
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  5. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Luis Ortiz not landing more big fights is due to ducking does that apply to all the other heavyweights who are not getting big fights.

    Makhmudov and Dychko haven't been able to land fights with top contenders and neither has Frank Sanchez but there doesn't seem to be this narrative everybody is ducking them. Maybe Ortiz didn't land more big fights due to lack of demand and lack of money.

    Fury and Usyk apologists certainly don't seem to feel bad about these guys not landing fights with Fury and Usyk and don't feel they are being ducked.
     
    Cojimar 1946, Nov 29, 2023
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