Is Deontay Wilder hall of fame worthy?

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Is Wilder hall of fame worthy?

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  1. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    After last night I think Wilder is done and it’s time to look back at his career. I think there’s no denying his ferocious power, athletic ability, and heart. He was a blast to watch.
     
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  2. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes together with Shavers.
     
  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His 10 defenses will get him based how infrequent it is in the HW division. His resume is weak but he’s statistically 4th in consecutive title defenses and only 1 of 9 total HW champions with 10+ title defenses.
     
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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    NO, and never was.

    He has 3 names on his resume Ortiz, who was 38 years old, which people now cries that Wilder is a shadow of his former self, which it's a b.c., as he was always been like this, but somehow forget to mention Ortiz was 38 when Wilder first fought him. Somehow that was Prime Ortiz, but the same energy does not goes for Wilder. He is a shadow of himself. :D

    Fury and Parker.
    And he was outbox in every single bout by this guys. He KO Ortiz, cause Ortiz was ancient and never really good to be fair. Parker and Fury embarrassed him.
    Parker especially 12-0 him. Absolutely disgrace.

    From my first day on this board i have told you that this guy is a fraud. A well protected fraud.
     
  6. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Top 5 for most heavyweight title defenses is pretty good.

    If we're talking solely about big wins, I'd say Vitali's haven't aged well and he's HOF.

    Also, I'd say some of Wilder's wins seem unimpressive only because he demolished his opponents so completely they became jokes (and probably lost most of their ambition). Guys like Helenius, Arreola, Washington, and Breazeale look like bums in large part because Wilder walked through them like wet tissue paper.
     
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  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    No.

    His best wins were over an old, massively overrated fighter in Ortiz - at best a fringe top ten fighter, with a very thin resume at that.
    Far from being avoided, Ortiz just didn't do what was necessary to build a serious resume - the avoided fighter is a myth, and always has been.

    On top of that... Having been a belt holder for so long and not having a much better resume shows a total lack of ambition - with a belt, everyone is desperate to fight you and in Wilder's case this included genuine top 5 level fighters like Joshua, Whyte, Povetkin... Not a single one of these features on Wilder's resume because Wilder had no interest in taking risks.
     
  8. BoxingViewer

    BoxingViewer Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, Johnny Nelson went into the hall of fame so based on Deontay Wilder's current resume with 10 world title defences Wilder deserves to be in the HOF too. Anybody who says Wilder doesn't deserve to be in the HOF is just a hater imho.
     
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  9. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Or we just see that he wasn’t very good and never beat anyone of note.
     
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  10. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Context is everything, having 10 title defences is impressive but against Wilder’s level of opposition, there are plenty of great guys who would have achieved what he did.

    Arreola, Washington, Helenius, Breazeale have been walked through by mediocre opposition, it wasn’t just Wilder. These guys have been dog walked by journeymen.

    Vitali has a poor resume but I rank his victory over Sanders and performance against Lewis higher than Wilder’s achievements. I think from a skills stand point Vitali is a much better fighter.
     
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  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Exactly...

    Put that belt onto Joshua, Whyte, Povetkin, Parker and give them the same opponents and there's a very good chance all of them come out the other side with the same streak.
     
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  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder’s top 10 opponents beaten: Stiverne 1, Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola, Washington, Ortiz 1, Breazeale, Ortiz 2, Helenius

    Vitali’s top 10 opponents beaten: Hide, Bean, Donald, Sanders, Peter, Gomez, Arreola, Kevin, Adamek, Chisora
     
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  13. Carinito

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    Based on resume. No.
    Based on Championship wins. Maybe.
    It is The Hall of Fame not The Hall of GOATs.
    He'll probably get in down the road
     
  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder will get in based on:

    1. 10 consecutive heavyweight title defences (2nd longest single reign since 1985 behind Wlad), best win being top 5 ranked, 30-0, 93% stoppage ratio Ortiz

    2. KO record (highest KO % among heavyweight champions, lots of spectacular KO's, perhaps the most devastating right hand puncher ever)

    3. Historic trilogy with lineal champion Fury (if Fury beats Usyk for the undisputed championship and retires unbeaten then Wilder's case is strengthened)

    4. Most significant American heavyweight this century thus far (if Anderson and Torrez have less success then Wilder's case is strengthened), broke the 7.5 year American heavyweight title drought
     
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  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Reumae sits just above mark di Mori esq
    Gone look