Is Deontay Wilder punching power overrated ?

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  1. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    I can't bear to see Deontay's feelings hurt with all these negative posts. I hope the bronze bomber digs up a old corpse from the cemetery after the Fury fight. Bring back Stiverne!
     
  2. It's Ovah

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    It's a bit overrated in the sense that people seem to consider him the hardest puncher of all time, but not overrated in the sense that he can hurt almost anyone if he lands flush on them. He's literally knocked down, knocked out or stopped every opponent he's ever fought, which is pretty staggering when you think about it, even if you don't hold the highest opinion of his resume. The only fighter he never managed to knock down was Duhaupas, but Duhaupas has a great chin and underrated defence.
     
  3. Tyistall

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    Saying that Wilder is an amazing puncher, is like saying that the Lakers of this year are the greatest NBA team of all time...if they only played teams with losing records. Wilder's resume is full of bums to make him look unbeatable. It's also devoid of the best boxers of the last ten years. There's no Klitschko, prime Haye, Povetkin, Whyte, AJ or most of the top ten. If he KOed any or half of them, I would give him full credit but instead, he avoids them all. It's easy to look amazing if you fight the Szpilkas and Arreolas but if you also avoid the rest of the top 10 constantly, then you are a fraud, just like Adonis Stevenson was.
     
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  4. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's impossible to say who the all-time best puncher is and much easier to place guys into tiers. From that point of view, Wilder absolutely is in the top tier of ATG heavyweight punchers. You don't get a KO record like that otherwise. Even the people you might list ahead of him had more average fighters go the distance, and Wilder's knockouts are shocking and devastating. His two 2019 KOs were truly spectacular.

    On another note, it's laughable that anyone would suggest Ortiz was handpicked. You don't cherry pick a southpaw Cuban counterpuncher with power, and especially if you don't throw in combination or have good footwork. Ortiz is a bad matchup for Wilder (as played out in the ring), which Wilder's detractors on this very forum all asserted was true and insisted was why Wilder never would fight him. Until he did, which at that point he became a geriatric, high blood pressure etc etc
     
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  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really? The only two top 10 fighters he fought under age of 55 went the distance with him. Hint: Stevern 1 and Fury. Both are not known for iron chins.
    I say yes, his power is overrated.
     
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  6. bbjc

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    It became apparent watching the scuba steve fight that ortiz is no good on the front foot. Especially when the longer reached fighter can back up like wilder can. The same guy wilder knocked out in one.

    Ortiz was definetely hand picked from wilders team. Dont get me wrong ortiz is a good fighter. Its a flawed style tho...pretty much relies on the opponent throwing first. Wilder with his dimensions never had to throw first. Left ortiz chasing with slow feet. And not great at pressuring. They knew that going in. I fancied ortiz to get the job done the first time round....thought they,d made a big mistake because ortiz,s reach was actually listed as longer than wilders on boxrec. Which actually turned out not to be true. They over exagerated his reach. Just meant ortiz had to follow him with slow feet. Just how wilder likes it.
     
  7. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If there is one thing wilder has that makes him a legit threat to ANY man he faces is his FLATLINING Power.

    that’s not a knock either
    Remember he has the speed / agility athleticism to get into position & use it.
    & has now leveled up his counter punching & timing.

    Fury will be a great Litmus style test to see how much he has improved or how much Luis Ortiz just aged.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    That right hand is the single most consistently powerful punch I've ever seen.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seriously? (LOL)

    If your two examples of Wilder not being able to punch are against two guys he collectively scored six (a half-dozen) knockdowns against, you need to try harder.

    That's like saying George Foreman can't punch because Joe Frazier got up six times.
     
  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone you listed was either over the hill, slow or can't punch. (LOL)

    Wilder just hasn't fought them yet. When he does, and stops them, you'll say they were over the hill, slow, or couldn't punch, too.

    And for the life of me I don't understand this fascination you guys seem to have with Dillian Whyte. When did he ever look like the best heavyweight in the world? Against anyone?

    This guy's whole career is one excuse after another of why he looked bad in his last fight.

    Wilder-Whyte will be as competitive and Wilder-Breazeale was. Although, Breazeale may have a better chin than Whyte.
     
  11. bbjc

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    A lot of them are over the hill admittedly....their better at closing the gap or applying pressure than who hes faced tho. Its not that hes picking slow guys or old guys....hes picking guys that cant get inside. Their too slow at closing the gap and they dont bring pressure. Wilders opponents have all been hand picked. Luckily for him now most of the guys that would have beat him are too old. Do me a favour tho....he is not the hardest hitting heavyweight ever

    Hes just another manufactured champion....picking guys that dont have the tools to face his style and avoided real challenges.
     
  12. Max Thunder

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  13. JDub

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    power bailed him out just enough for them to call it a draw. He lost really, but you are pretty much correct in your assessment.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

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    What utter nonsense.

    The #1 rated heavyweight is the biggest challenge at heavyweight.

    Other than Wilder, who else has signed to fight the #1 Ring rated, 6'9" undefeated, switch-hitting heavyweight TWICE in the span of 14 months?

    Is Tyson Fury not a "real" challenger? Enough already.

    The #1 challenger isn't a real challenger? Fighting him twice in a year doesn't count for anything?

    Wilder is an excellent champion. And he's the biggest puncher in heavyweight history.

    No heavyweight champion in history has a higher KO percentage with as many title defenses.
     
  15. Special one

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    The power is real,but somewhat overrated! Yeah he hits hard, but is also made out to be a knock out artist who puts all to put all of his opponents to sleep. Ortiz was up but unable to continue, Fury got up and proceeded to rock Wilder to his boots in that famous twelfth round!! So yeah, overrated really.