Is duran slightly overrated as an ATG?

Duran is one of the greatest. His victory over Barkley was one of the greatest achievements in boxing history.

Look at the size difference (6'1, 74 inch reach vs 5'7, 66 inch reach) and the age difference. Duran weighed at 156 for the fight. On fight night, Barkley probably had 20 lbs on him. He took a monster left hook from Barkley that nearly took his head off and stay composed to knock Barkley down and win a decision.

He won that fight with precision punching, rocking Barkley throughout the fight. It was a marvel to see.

 

1st off he was 2-1 against DeJesus, the loss coming in at over the limit weight. In the 2 rematches, he destroyed Esteban. If youre going to write insanity, at least get the facts right. 2nd Leonard, Hagler and Hearns (as well as Benitez for that matter) are all legitimate atgs at their best weights which are larger than Duran's prime at lightweight. Btw the way, he legitimately beat Barkley. Please watch the fight again- thats if you have in the 1st place. And as far as watching fights is concerned, you need to watch the Buchanan fight in the 1st place, because if you had, you would have seen Roberto beating Kenny from pillar to post for 13 rounds, winning at least 9 rounds in the process although kenny had aome moments. If you had seen the fight you would have known that Duran landed the balls punch after Kenny had thrown 2 punches clearly after the bell had rung.

 

Just for once stop this. Nobody is making excuses when they claim Duran was naturally smaller than Leonard, Hearns, Benitez and Hagler. He was. That's just a fact. Look at the tale of the tape. He was shorter, had a shorter reach, smaller chest, smaller arms, but had a larger waist when he arrived at 154. Just because he fought at 154 before those guys did does not make 154 his natural weight. Thats absolute nonsense. What you need to do is stop making excuses for Leonard's loss to Duran because you are a hypocrite.

 

There you go making excuses for Leonard's loss to Duran YET AGAIN. Quite hypocritical of you.

 

Hagler and Barkley giving his credit says that he was good enough at those weights, and still people say he was not. And Hearns and Benitez beat him at that weight below where Barkley and Hagler did. This is a valid point and anyone who hears it knows it is.
The hypocrits would be the people who want to say Duran was great when he fought at 154 and 160 against Moore and Barkley, yet he was small against Hearns and Benitez, when he fought there before they did as early as 1978.. That is good evidence, and to argue this fact saying I am a hypocrit, is more excuses and not really valid at all. Excuses are saying he had shorter reach and all this, and yet Tyson was smaller and won his fights against bigger guys. Hearns beat Virgil Hill who was undefeated and younger and 10 title defenses 30 pounds over the first weight Hearns won his first title. So much for excuses.

 

60 pounds on Duran? Where do you get that? That is just a number you are throwing out.

 

I said facts. Where are the excuses? He beat Duran 2 out of 3 times. And Hearns beat Duran. Benitez beat Duran. Hagler beat Duran. What are the excuses.

 

I could tell it was Barkley from the names and mention Nigel Benn. I like those little quizzes although sometimes they don't match. You would think if they fought the same guys, they would have the same guys as the ones who were say strongest or hardest puncher. I am not knocking it really. I still enjoy it, especially when they explain their answers.

 

Heres a fact for you and everyone: you ALWAYS make the excuse that Leonard lost to Duran because Ray didnt fight his fight. That is an undisputed fact. In your post we are discussing here you wrote Ray beat Duran when he fought his fight. That is your usual excuse.

 

Absolutely nothing you wrote here changes the fact that you ALMOST ALWAYS make the excuse that Duran beat Leonard because Ray didnt fight his fight. Are you denying that? A simple yes or no will suffice.

 

and I believe it. Ray completely turned it around.. Almost as much as Azumah Nelson did with Fenech in 1991 or whatever year that was. 1992? If we compare the first round in the first Duran/Leonard to the first round of the second fight, the variable which changes is Ray's movement.

 

There you go. Your excuse.