Is Eddie Chambers a throw back fighter from the 50',60's and 70's

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Reading this article, they mention Chambers is over 6 inches shorter and 40+lbs less than Vlad ..Chambers weighed in at 208lbs for his last fight and just standing about 6"ft. They expect Chambers to weigh even less for his fight vs Vlad. Does he stand a chance vs Vlad? and is he developing into a throw back fighter?

    Chambers near deal to fight Wladimir Klitschko in Germany


    POSTED: January 15, 2010
    Chambers near deal to fight Wladimir Klitschko in Germany




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    According to Rob Murray Sr., the era of the big, plodding European heavyweight is about to end. It's time for a relatively small, fast American to alter the dynamic among boxing's big men.
    "Eddie is going to beat [Wladimir] Klitschko. I'm telling you now, he is going to beat Klitschko," said Murray, the manager-trainer of Philadelphia-based "Fast" Eddie Chambers, who is on the verge of signing a contract to challenge the IBF/WBO heavyweight champion on March 20 at the ESPRIT Arena in Dusseldorf, Germany.
    "Klitschko is very methodical. He's like a crop-duster going against a Learjet. He won't be able to handle Eddie's speed and movement.
    "We've got a play for Klitschko, and I have a plan for
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    [Klitschko's Hall of Fame trainer]. We're going to implement that plan and shock the world, except that it won't be a shock to me. Eddie is not only going to win, but win handily. This is the fight that changes the heavyweight guard, that brings the title back to America, where it belongs, and re-emphasizes the value of speed over power."
    Chambers (35-1, 18 KO) is 6-1 and weighed only 208 1/4 pounds for his most recent bout, in which he scored an impressive, 12-round majority decision over previously undefeated Ukrainian Alexander Dimitrenko in Hamburg, Germany, on July 4, in a WBO title elimination fight.
    Murray, who has managed Chambers since 2002, took over as the trainer after Chambers lost a 12-round unanimous decision to Russia's Alexander Povetkin on Jan. 26, 2008. Chambers weighed 219 1/2 pounds for that bout, but has steadily come down in weight since to accentuate his quickness and mobility, advantages he used to telling effect against the 6-7, 253 1/2-pound Dimitrenko and will use, Murray believes, against the 6-6 1/2, 245-pound Klitschko.
    Since losing to Povetkin, Chambers - a Pittsburgh native who moved to Philadelphia in 2002 and honed his craft through 18 winning appearances at the Blue Horizon - has reeled off five consecutive victories, including a points nod over
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    "When we signed him, we saw Eddie's tremendous talent, but he wasn't putting it all together," said Dan Goossen, president of Goossen Tutor Promotions. "He's put it together since Rob Murray began training him. I finally saw what I wanted to see in the Dimitrenko fight. That's the Eddie Chambers who is capable of beating any heavyweight in the world."
    Murray, a longtime Philly fight guy who picked up nuances of the sport from Yank Durham, Joe Gramby, Quenzell McCall, Howard McCall, Sam Solimon and other local training legends, already has been recognized for his astute work with Chambers. He was named Manager of the Year by The Ring magazine, an honor he said he hopes to further justify through Chambers' performance against Klitschko.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

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    I wouldn't call him that but he's an excellent ring technician that should be a CW this day in age. But he's earned my respect after seeing him and being very disgruntled with his attitude in the Povetkin fight. He had flaws, he worked on them and turned it around. He's a got a chance but I think he'll lose.
     
  3. mr. magoo

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    That about sums it up for me as well.

    Chambers is one of the few heavyweights of this crop who actually IMPROVED his conditioning and technical skills following a loss. The same can't be said for guys like Sam Peter and other memebers of the same generation. Frankly, I would have liked to see a rematch with Povetkin before seeing Chambers get in the ring with Wlad, for purpose of seeing exactly how much he's improved...

    Even though Wlad is at the age where he can be taken at any time, I think the size and experience gap is a bit too wide in both areas.
     
  4. Mantequilla

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    Poor man's Greg Richardson.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

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    I'll say this: had there never been an Evander Holyfield; Eddie might be the Evander Holyfield in that alternate reality (not in overall greatness or ability but in pioneering role...same as Billy Conn could have been the Michael Spinks of a parallel dimension had one minor tweak been made).
     
  6. Bummy Davis

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    I agree a rematch with Povetkin would be a good measuring stick but I hear Alex has been making some improvements as well. As much as I like Eddies determination to be a better conditioned fighter Vlad and Vitali have always shown that ( except a little lax going into Sanders) I think many fighters if they did try and find there ideal weight would be better off. I think because of the no limit a lot of fighters in the Heavyweight division from the 80's till now are not doing themselves justice. Peter, Areola,Tubbs,Page,Witherspoon,Briggs,Brewster are some that would have been better fighters had they rid themselves of the extra fat and misplaced useless muscle. That said I still hope Vlad prevails because he has always shown condition.
     
  7. Boxed Ears

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    Briggs especially as far as too much muscle. He would have been so much better off lugging around less. He'd have been faster, more athletic and then there's the asthma. I don't see how it could do anything but help with that. I would think he'd gas much less.
     
  8. The Mongoose

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    I like Chambers and I hope he puts in a good showing. I honestly think Wlad is far too busy, accurate, and tight for him, but he's the first heavyweight contender in sometime to earn his title shot the hard way. Very techincally sound fighter, good conditioning, and most importantly, hungry.
     
  9. TheGreatA

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    “The extra weight just made me slower,” Chambers said after he turned Dimitrenko into an oversized heavy bag. “After the Peter fight, I took off 10 pounds in a week and a half. It came off easy. I vowed that I’d never get up over 215 again, even between fights."

    “Keeping my weight down will help me stay effective. I was sharper. I was faster. My movement was much better. I didn’t have a jiggly midsection. It makes all the difference. I was able to get on my toes and stay on my toes. I had more energy throughout the fight. I like the way my new body feels. I like the way it looks, too.”

    “Look, I know what some people have said about Eddie, are still saying about him. He’s just a Blue Horizon fighter, a club fighter. He’s supposedly too short, too light, can’t punch. Hey, a lot of people said some of the same things about Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey. They weren’t real big guys, but they could fight. This kid can fight.”

    “No more `Fat Eddie,’” he said. “I’m `Fast Eddie’ again, and I’m going to stay that way. Who knows? Maybe I can get an underwear commercial out of this.”
     
  10. janitor

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    He is a throwback in that he has recognised that he is never going to be bigger than the superheavyweights of today so he might as well work on his advantages in speed and methodology.

    When he meets Wlad we might see something akin to one of Primo Carnera's fights against Jack Sharkey or Tommy Loughran in terms of its dynamic.

    I don't think that he will win, but I anticipate it to be one of the more interesting heavyweight fights of recent years.
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    I don't see him winning either. I DO however, think that he is probably the best fighter Wlad has faced since perhaps Chris Byrd in their first meeting. Wlad was also prime back in those days, and Chris still took him the distance. In addition, the roles have been reversed. Wlad was the young stud out to prove himself against a reigning champion. This time Eddie is filling that role, while Wlad is in Byrd's former shoes. I don't think that he's in for an easy night...
     
  12. techks

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    Perhaps. He reminds me a bit of Jimmy Young.
     
  13. The Morlocks

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    He's gonna beat Wlad. I have faith in Chambers. Hell, I might even start sporting a 'Fast' Eddie avatar :lol:
     
  15. Bummy Davis

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    I do think Vlad is the Hardest puncher that Eddie has faced thus far and the most accomplished boxer but I like Eddies attitude and conditioning mentality. I think condition and speed and stamina beats a big guy, don't try and match them with weight. If your strengths are stamina and pin point punching and speed, use those strengths against the other guys weakness. This is what makes this fight very interested. However I still favor Vlad to prevail but I am excited about this fight.