Is Eddie Hearn to blame for there being no undisputed hw champion?

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  1. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Obviously we had no undisputed champion during the Klitschko era since neither brother would fight each other. However since that era Joshua has held the titles for a long period of time and during that period Joshua has failed to get an undisputed clash after years of negotiations with Fury and Wilder. However Usyk and Fury appear to have agreed terms within a couple of weeks. So what gives? Is Hearn to blame for there being no undisputed champion for so long?
     
  2. Clout

    Clout Member Full Member

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    For all his faults Eddie Hearn has always seemed more willing to put his fighters in risky fights than almost any other promoter. Certainly any British promoter.
     
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  3. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Shirley Winkel & co were at fault for AJ v Wilder not happening.

    Then they thought they were getting a soft touch in Fury who was coming back from being 400 stone in weight and putting half of Columbia up his nose............. but it backfired and that's all she wrote.
     
  4. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody really knows exactly what happened between Hearn-Joshua and Finkel-Wilder.
    But Hearn's story was that Finkel and undefeated Wilder turned down 100 million just to protect the zero and make far less money.
    It makes no sense at all.
    Fighters sell themselves out for a tiny fraction of that all the time, taking bad contracts, hydration clauses etc.
    There is no way they turned down a legit 100 million offer with a fair contract. Nobody on earth would.
    And Wilder had delusional self-belief, too, meaning he would have been confident of winning.
    The story simply doesn't add up.
    Hearn is lying about something, or likely a hundred things at once.
    Finkel is also a snake, but common sense tells us Finkel is not thwarting the biggest pay-day he'll ever get, when his whole motivation is profiteering.

    More damning evidence has emerged recently. Hearn-J avoided Fury for fear of losing and damaging the brand. It's likely they did the same with Wilder. If people wonder why they too wouldn't take the 100 million and 'cash out', it's because it never existed and also because Hearn-J make a lot more money per fight than Wilder, so in the long term they likely would make just as much or more money fighting other people.

    In other words, logic tells us that Hearn-J had MORE to lose by fighting Wilder than Wilder had fighting them and therefore AJ likely ducked Wilder in the same fashion he ducked Fury, by hiding behind his handlers. ''I let my management handle da bidnez.'
     
  5. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder had all the opportunity in the world to fight Wlad...he didn't. Wilder's team prevented unification. They said he wasn't ready. Dude is walking around with the WBC championship, yet he's not ready? He then fights a parade of bums for years until Fury; which was a cherry pick gone wrong.
     
  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well of the 4 fighters names you mentioned only one has never unified the titles, namely Wilder.

    Fury/Joshua did come to terms previously and seemed to be set to fight until Wilder took Fury to court to enforce a 3rd fight with Fury which he and his team had been dragging their feet on making, preventing the titles being unified. So again Wilder was the impediment.

    Both Fury and Usyk do not seem to have any issues fighting on a rival promoters card, so it shouldn't be a shock they have agreed terms. But we can't say the same of Wilder or Joshua who have always fought on their promoters card, so again we shouldn't be surprised that when they tried to make a deal it became problematic to say the least.

    So is it Hearns fault or Haymon's fault? Supporters of either side will blame the other side, but only one side really chased the fight and that was Matchroom. Doesn't mean Matchroom wanted it though could have been just PR, but given the 2 fighters and promoters track record, one that's risk adverse, namely Wilder/PBC and one a risk taker being Joshua/Matchroom, it's hard to blame Hearn/Matchroom for this. If it is Hearn's fault then he's done a tremendous job in making it look otherwise with the constant calling out and chasing of the fight, multiple career high offers including what must have been a record guaranteed purse for any heavyweight in history at the time.