Is Eder Jofre Overrated?

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is considered by many boxing historian as the best bantamweight ever
    But if you look closely to his resume, it lacks depth. Even Joe Calzaghe boots a better resume.
    His biggest wins are Vicente Saldivar and Jose Legra.

    He was ranked 19th best fighter in the last 80 years by ring magazine in 2002.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Johnny Caldwell wasn't chopped ham.
     
  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well this ought to bring out the righteously indignant.


    Which was probably your point to begin with.
     
  4. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How can he be overated when **** all people mention him. He's the goat at bantamweight and more talented then most fighters mentioned on here. All 10 of them.
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Nah, he's probably underrated in all honesty. In fact I myself fear that I underrate him.
     
  6. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its better to face your fear than to hide from it- Eder Jofre
     
  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ask Fighting Harada the thread question.
     
  9. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Yeah, that Jose Medel sure was a bum (x2). And that Saldivar guy, only a naturally larger ATG - what a loser (KO). Caraballo, Aoki, Jamito, Caldwell, Sanchez, Miranda etc. what poor contenders, losers! Seriously though, Jofre has a resume that gets stronger the more you look into it - same with Harada, actually. Those two wins you mention, Sadivar and Legra, alone are better than a lot guys resumes all time, especially with the context of weight being higher than Jofre's prime and Jofre's age of 35 / 37. Then you account for his strong names at Bantam, alongside the sheer dominance and consistency and he is a clear top 5 Bantam historically + 126lb achievements.

    That Calzaghe comparison is a definite clever troll designed to incite so I won't tackle that.

    The only way Jofre is overrated is when people rank him much greater than Harada. IMO they are basically tied and either could be in front of the other by one place. Harada was his best opponent at Bantam and he did lose, but at the same time if Jofre had won Harada would've never been as great as he was. And H2H, you really can't get better than Jofre. Honestly, he is rarely mentioned here now a days and is unknown to casuals. He is not overrated.

    If you have any questions on Jofre, ask @ChrisJS , one of the best posters on the board (sorry Chris). He could clear it up for you.
     
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  10. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    No, he is absolutely not.
     
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  11. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea, those two bums.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Imo, you don't underrate him. Since we don't talk about him, ever. I will say I don't agree with picking Jofre over Gomez, though.
     
  13. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here is the list of fighter that were ranked higher than Jofre.
    The Ring had him at 19 while ESPN ranked him at 36 (all-time)

    Here are the fighter that are ranked below him in both list
    Hearns, Holyfield, Arguello, RJJ, Hopkins, Holmes, Gomez, Morales, Barrera, Foreman
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    No, he's not over rated. Most see him as #1-3 all time in the bantam weight weight class. If Jofre was around today, he could be the #1 guy in boxing, over Canelo.

    Nat S. Fleischer, famous historian and creator of ring magazine, a man notoriously partial to the old time fighters said, Jofre is as good as any bantam he's seen.