Is Ernesto Marcel a better fighter than Pac, MAB, JMM and EM?

I agree, I thought he looked like he might be fading when he fought Arguello, though he still managed to pull out the win. At the same time though, I felt Arguello improved very much after that fight, and probably because of it.

I thought he acquitted himself very well against Duran, despite losing in the end. He showed both slick boxing skills and the ruggedness and punching ability to stay with Duran on the inside. That stoppage was kinda strange from what I remember.

Still, I think with him having retired so relatively soon and suddenly, it's hard to fully assess him or rank him compared to other featherweights. Stylistically, he could be a problem for a lot of featherweights, but I don't know who exactly I would say he was better than.

 

Sure, i don't see why not.Especially if you think he would beat them.I'd put Pedroza, Arguello, Famechon, Ramos, Winstone and maybe a few others in there too.I can see them all swapping wins and losses without any single one emerging as a clear leader really.

 

Pedroza is my favorite of the bunch, and I definitely believe he belongs in that group. I'd say he was very capable of beating any of the others, though a guy like Saldivar I'd favor over him more often than not.

 

Pedroza's reputation seems to suffer a bit at times from his close fights towards the end of his reign, when he was starting to lose a notch physically and maybe become a bit complacent as a long-running campion.


It's interesting how most of the best Panamanian fighters like Marcel, Pedroza, LAguna and zapata all have a broadly similar style of fighting.Alal great technical fighters.

 

Very slick stylists. Duran, while a much more pressure oriented banger than the others, had a lot of that in him as well.

 

I agree with this, Saldivar is a guy i may pick most times because i think on top of the tangiles he seems to be a winner of the highest order. But Pedroza to me in terms of greatness should be very high. Thats a great champion right there, wether it was lineal or not, he came back after early setbacks and then to do what he did was great.

 

Sweet, you may be interested in a little tidbit. The dissenting judge who scored the Gomez-Marcel fight even was a Venezuelan judge named Rafael Curtaya. In the 2nd and 3rd Canto-Gonzalez fights, Canto won only split decisions. The dissenting judge in both those fights was...Rafael Curtaya. See a pattern there? Incidentally, I always heard the 1st Gonzalez -Canto fight was a fair decision. And again drawn along party lines. The judge who scored that fight even was Mexican. Too funny.

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Betulio got so many chances it was ridiculous.some of those vnezuelan fighters lead charmed lives.I thought he got a gift against Espadas as well, though that was a hard fight.

Have you ever heard anything about Gomez vs Dejesus or Cervantes, scar?.

 

I have not, and that's not to say I haven't been digging. It must've been too obscure in their young careers at the time. If I find somthing I'll post it, dude. Incidentally, I know what you mean about the Venezuelans. How many opportunities did Lionel Hernandez get? I liked Betulio, but have to admit he was a favored son.

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Gonzalez is hard not to like.He's the kind of no-bull**** aggresive technician i always enjoy watching.He always came to fight that's for sure.

I wouldn't say the fight with Espadas would qualify as a true robbery, sweet.Just a debatable close one.I think i had it for Espadas by 2 or 3 points.