Is Errol Spence on PEDS?

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  1. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    You have a certain group of super groupies who don't see anything shady about Floyd's illegal IV use...

    "The commission cleared him, doe!"
     
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  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    course it's a guess,reason for the thread to ask folks opinion.Expecting a dirty test is dream land stuff,let's have it right there's no reason whatsoever why one would not be tested by VADA.
     
  3. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I've seen nothing that would indicate or suggest Spence is using anything. He's so laidback, if anything, he is probably smoking pot. lol
     
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  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol I know,I'm a Floyd can but it was obvious to me what was going on there,in any case it went deeper than that,Thomas Hausers article showed a huge cover up over crazy testosterone results.
    ironically Floyd weighed in on Spence saying there's no good reason for him to dodge VADA lol.
     
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  5. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spence is innocent until proven guilty. He just hits hard that's all. Jack Johnson hit hard too, he wasn't on any PEDs.
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For all those into large boobies,
    He doesn't get tested so he's not gonna be found guilty is he?
    there's no advantage for ducking VADA other than it you're after avoiding detection.
     
  7. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I found that hilarious! Clearly flIVd was diluting at the time they literally caught him.
     
  8. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually love large boobs on a lady but what's that got to do with what were talking about :)

    I had no idea that Spence has never ever been tested. That's what you're saying in your post above. So Spence has never ever been tested...interesting...I didn't know that till you said.

    I'm just stating the facts and that is you're innocent until proven guilty. Facts are facts and speculations can go on and on.
     
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  9. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Look, I don't know if hes doping or not but I do believe in innocent until proven guilty. Evading drug tests, if that's what hes doing, does look bad but hes innocent until....
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  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh I’m sure he’s been tested but there’s only one that ever catches folk and that’s the one he’s evading,given it’s a bad look to evade that and that the WBC will drop you from their rankings you have to assume he’s up to no good.Hate using lance Armstrong as an example but he was doping and passed every test.
    Only way to catch these guys is to have an opinion on them based off their looks and actions and make em get tested.
    Hate to say this but in modern sport there ain’t too many innocent ones about,can’t believe how gullible I was over guys like Carl Lewis,Linford Christie.
     
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  11. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Floyd is the biggest drug cheats in the history of boxing. To wit:
    • History of ultra low T/E ratios (same as Lamont PEDerson and a huge red flag for doping)
    • Hired his own drug testing agency and held them to private contract terms
    • Settled a lawsuit from Pacquiao because Pacquiao's legal team flipped the script on him
    • Refused VADA testing for the Pacquiao fight
    • Rejected a $5 million dollar per positive test penalty (since they always do the A and B sample, that's $10 million easy)
    • Caught breaking WADA code and receiving illegal IVs
    • Announces fights at the very last possible moment (controls when testing starts)
    Floyd was the face of boxing and lives in Las Vegas. He could and did get away with whatever he wanted.
     
  12. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    I understand reason for the thread, and i gave an opinion.

    I am totally for a clean sport, i know there is opinion of let them have free hand re drugs as everyone is doing it, i don't take that viewpoint.

    So yes the best testing, bans for positive results and zero mitigating circumstances, if it is in the boxers body then whether that is through inadvertent supplement use, tainted beef or indeed intentional PEDS, the ban stays in total.

    I don't take the view of "Expecting a dirty test is dream land stuff", as many boxers have tested dirty, though there is lot more work to do in my opinion both with testing and enforcement of bans.

    Why should any boxer have to take PEDs to compete on level playing field, and why should non PED user run risk of being hurt by boxer benefitting from PED use?.

    However cash cows/geese that lay the golden egg, or whatever you call them are the money makers and will be protected.
     
  13. Angler Andrew

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    It's dream land stuff when he refuses to use VADA as they the only ones who catch folk.you're quite right though,A side guys do get protection
     
  14. Work the body

    Work the body Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry to sound so cynical but they are all at it.
     
  15. Wasteman

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    Deep down I think we all suspect that, with the large sums of money at stake competing at the highest level in this sport, 'honest' boxers who aren't on PEDs are probably in the minority.
     
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