Is Evander a Steriod Cheat?

Tight, trim bodies are not solely indicative of juicing. I point to exhibit A: James Toney and exhibit B Francois Botha

 

Of course he was, but I don't hold it against him all that much because many were to... EVENder playingFIELD

 

For the record, I don't think that any fighter should be accused of roiding solely due to their physique, or success moving up in weight.

That alone is not sufficient in my eyes, because you do get outliers naturally.

If somebody fails a drugs test even once, or some other direct evidence emerges against them, then that is a different matter.

 

He was, but ironically he gets defended by tons of people who find every excuse for his flagrant fouls (the head butts in the Tyson and rahman fights for example).

 

I believe he was

 

I agree. That was the cost of doing business if you were dead set on being the best in that era.

If there were a magical list that had the name of every single steroid/PED user in the game, I believe more fans would want to burn it and pretend it never existed than acknowledge it.

The floodgates opened up after Spinks-Holmes IMO. That's the catalyst that mainstreamed them in the sport from being more of a fringe thing.

 

But nobody can show any credible evidence if a large majority or just a significant minority usd PEDs.
And what percentage of them dabbled or used a lot & transformed their physiques with it.

It is possible most fans would burn the evidence-but that is an extreme suggestion so I doubt it.
But merely asserting a premise is no better than wishful thinking,
However fans might feel, what evidence is there that even the majority of fighters used PEDs?

Saying it was not tested for & citing advantages that could accrue does nothing to establish how many used.
And even how many thought it was a large or necessary advantage-remember that it took years for fighters to even believe in weight training, traditionally believing it would make one muscle bound & hurt performance.

Meanwhile the evidence is overwhelming that Holyfield used. Few would bother to deny it.
It also appears that like Clemens, his performance varied significantly (& his health) based upon taking cycles of steroids.
And yes, how MUCH one uses & how much benefit they get is relevant to any moral or other judgement in assessing quality.

Just like an unknown quantity of fans hate to admit their favorites used...
Others refuse to critique their favorites because of bias-leading them to assume equal violations by mnost everyone else.

But the evidence does not remotely support that.
Bowe, Tyson & Lewis...While it is possible they used, & it is possible you or I are wife beaters or worse...
There is no decent indication they or many others likely used.

 

Completely agree. The easy way out is assuming. I can't tar the rest of them with the same brush just because someone got outed.

 

Really? So we can't call people cheating "cheats" then? If Evan Fields never got pinched you'd be barking up a different tree.

 

How can he be a cheat when plenty of his rivals will have been on PED's?

I suppose Lance Armstrong was a cheat as well yeah?

 

To be fair, Holyfield was never much of a billy goat until the steroids made him go prematurely bald soon after he won the Hwt title and then that bald head was just another weapon in his already formidable arsenal and he did make use of it.

 

Yes, of course. There isn't really any question.

All you have to know is "Evan Fields," and close thread.

 

Why would Holyfield have used the name Evan Fields when anyone with 2 brain cells would have worked out it was him? Hell, even Frank Bruno, Deontay Wilder or Riddick Bowe could have worked it out.

Was Holyfield set up?

 

Yeah, this seems reasonable to me. Steroids started becoming avalable and known in the 70's but no testing was done and they probably wasn't even banned in many sports until later in the 70's, so it would surprise me a lot if usage wasn't quite wide spread.

 

So an athlete using steroids, a "performance enhancing drug", isn't cheating?