Is Evander Holyfield one of the all-time top 10 heavyweights?

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  1. TRUEBELIEVER 66

    TRUEBELIEVER 66 Guest

    There is no way a 46 year old Holy who will be outweighed by 100-120lbs is gonna win against Valuev:-( it ain't happening..
    Holy is gonna get KO'D hard..
     
    TRUEBELIEVER 66, Nov 20, 2008
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  2. Bazooka

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    He did go 1-1-1 with Ruiz but you can argue Holyfield really won two of them.
    Rahman was a bum, then why is the current champ fighting him then? actually back then Rahman was still a live fighter Holyfield beat him past his prime that speaks volumes to the mans skill level.

    Moore, Tyson, Bowe, Mercer, Douglas, Foreman are all solid wins for Holyfield and the reason I say Foreman is becuase George still went on to win a Title after the Holyfield fight.

    defently top 10 no doubt about it.
     
    Bazooka, Nov 20, 2008
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  3. DINAMITA

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    Good post. Rahman was a good win at the time.
     
    DINAMITA, Nov 20, 2008
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  4. Bazooka

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    Rahman is not a one hit wonder as these ****s are saying, he knocked Lennox the **** out something that Holyfield couldnt do, something that Vitali couldnt do.

    Not only that he also knocked out Corrie Sanders who later destroyed Wlad klitschko, and also who Vitali had to fight to win the vacant WBC title.
     
    Bazooka, Nov 20, 2008
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  5. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Not in the top 10. He should be around 12-15 on most peoples lists
     
    RightCross, Nov 20, 2008
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  6. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have him placed at 11 but he could defiantly be in the top ten he has a great resume.
     
    Minotauro, Nov 20, 2008
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  7. Bazooka

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    Exactly However 4 Heavyweight world titles speaks volumes nobody has done that.
     
    Bazooka, Nov 20, 2008
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  8. DINAMITA

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    If someone asks you for your top 10 of anything, you can either give it, or take your attitude. If we all had your attitude, it would be a dull old forum. If you can say with conviction that Ali is better than Holyfield, then you can reason out a top ten. If you don't agree, don't participate then.
     
    DINAMITA, Nov 20, 2008
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  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    (Not quite undisputed.)

    Took the title from a bloated, out-of-shape and psychologically damaged Douglas.

    Defended it against two senior citizens and one mediocre journeyman, before losing it to Bowe.

    Four times, I believe.

    And if a guy wins the title four times, it means he lost it three times.

    Joe Loius was a one-time world champ.

    Would he be more highly regarded if he had lost and recaptured the title four times between 1937 and 1949 ?


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    Has a narrow Majority decision over Bowe, and also two decisive losses.




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    Post-prison Mike. Not shot, but well past his best.



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    Again, a split record with Moorer. A win and a loss.



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    Both men WELL past their best
    (A near certainty both would have beaten him in their primes)



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    A win, a loss and a draw here. And John is a nice guy, but... ???



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    A fair win, if close before the hematoma caused the stoppage.




    Possibly the greatest ever cruiser, but not on my top 10 heavywt list.
     
    cuchulain, Nov 20, 2008
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  10. Unforgiven

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    I'd rate him above Tyson. And above Lennox Lewis.
    But below Holmes.

    Probably around 7 or 8 on all all-time list.
     
    Unforgiven, Nov 20, 2008
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  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yes

    1. Ali
    2. Louis
    3. Dempsey
    4. Foreman
    5. Holmes
    6. Marciano
    7. HOLYFIELD
    8. Johnson
    9. Liston
    10. Frazier
     
    Zakman, Nov 20, 2008
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  12. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    nope, around 12 to 15 would be right
     
    SouthpawSlayer, Nov 20, 2008
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  13. EpsilonAxis

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    Absolutely, without a doubt.

    I don't see any reason he should be ranked lower than Liston, Patterson, Tunney, Dempsey, or Jeffries.
     
    EpsilonAxis, Nov 20, 2008
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  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He's about there.
     
    catasyou, Nov 20, 2008
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  15. TFFP

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    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Lennox Lewis
    4. Sonny Liston
    5. Jack Johnson
    6. Jim Jefferies
    7. Rocky Marciano
    8. Joe Frazier
    9. Larry Holmes
    10. Evander Holyfield
     
    TFFP, Nov 20, 2008
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