is everyone blinded by valero's ko's of tomato cans

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by larrysmith, Apr 10, 2009.


  1. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude,

    If you are in for a record, he should fight tomato cans all his life. He might retire 50-0 or 60-0:lol:.

    Yup! It could be a record indeed! Great number at 50-0.

    Getting a record of 50-0. Is impressive numbers indeed! BUT GETTING THE RESPECT by BEATING worthy OPPONENT is totally different thing my friend!

    So far Jeff M and FInito could only talk about Mosquera, Mosquera and Mosquera.. and ULTRA prime 39 YR OLD PITALUA!!!
     
  2. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Pit, which fighters fans do you think are the one's talking negative about a man who is just starting to make a name in a country he was banned from fighting in at one time lol??? These same fans parrot back to us...Pitalua was prime, Mosquera is the only fighter on Valero's resume...lol. How many times have we read this lol...???

    Before Pac jumped to 122, check out who he fought lol. This can be done with many boxers from Duran, to Chavez to Valero. Valero isn't the first or last fighter with potential who is looked at as suspect, but some fans aren't even waiting for him to slip. According to them, he already has lol.
     
  3. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The point is even if the fighter Valero fought were tomato cans then he did what the was suppose to do and thats win but the fact he not only one He knocked them all out with in the distance, now that power no matter how you cut it. Like I said before the only fighter that came close the having 25 wins with 25 KO is Julian Jackson and he missed by one fight. getting 50 wins with the current class of fighter Valero is fighting ? yeah that might be possible but getting 50 win with 50 kos!? that amazing!! regardless who he's fighting.
     
  4. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thank you .. If Valario is fight Tomato can he doing what he is suppose to do and thats win, but not only is he winning with easy, he knocking fools the hell out , in spectacular fashion. How are you going to hate on that .. Pac's first 25 fight he was KOed and carried out the ring with out even waiting to hear the results. :lol:
     
  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Early on in his career.I swear he reminded me alot like Pac or Vic darchinyan. Very similar sloppy techniques.But Look at where Darchinyan and Pacquiao is now. This kid actually hits harder. But who is Valero's Marquez or Nonito? to expose him. IMO he aint unbeatable there's weakness in his game. :rofl
     
  6. jaed

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    the win loss record of his opponents was below .500 for like his first 13 fights, and he's only had 25. So for more than half his career his opponents couldn't win more fights than they lost. Than miraculously their W/L record shoots way up, so this must mean he stepped up his competition, right...right? Nope. If the guy's Valero is fighting are nobody's than the guys these guys are fighting don't even exist. So far the guy has shown me that he can crack, but not much else. He is exciting to watch, but he IS completely unproven on the pro level, and if this guy is a two time champ with that opposition boxing is in a sorry er state than anyone imagined. He may be great he may not NO ONE on here knows for sure untill he beats some better opposition, Don't forget the lesson sam peter taught us, power does not equal greatness.
     
  7. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pitalua, Mosquera and even Honmo are not tomato cans.:yep
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Valero has a lot of potential. Time will tell us how much.
     
  9. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The man is a promising & exciting fighter with the potential to become the next superstar in boxing which helps to keep the interest in the sport. Those that are bashing him and hoping that he falls flat on his face before he has actually failed are clearly biased individuals that probably don't like the fact that Valero could conceivably become a real threat to their favorite fighters(ahem, Pac & JMM fans).
     
  10. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think any good boxer will expose valero much like gatti and deleon got exposed when they fought a good boxer.

    Guzman vs Valero will proly end up looking like gatti vs robinson.
     
  11. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Pacquiao picked his first loss (a KO) on his 11th or 12th fight but the fighter who defeated him (Torrecampo) had a winning fight record. Speaking of Valero, I think his great power will be enough to beat some good contenders from 135-140 and he'll dangerous even to the elites. Of course winning over the elites like JMM or Pac for example will need more than power.
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    hes a 2 time champion and sucks....
    ok.....
    you are quickly becoming ESB newest MORON poster
    :patsch
     
  13. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that's more like it! it's better than saying Valero will ko jmm, hatton or pac...