Is everyone overlooking Taylor in the Super Six?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by GrovesVDegale, Aug 11, 2009.


  1. All the talk is about Kessler and Froch but I reckon Taylor might just be the dark horse to win this tournament. Here's why:

    He has the most experience against top opposition - Hopkins (Twice) Pavlik (Twice) Winky Wright, Spinks & Froch

    He is undoubtedly a very skilled operator with great boxing skills that are superior to the likes of Froch, Kessler, Abraham.

    Although he lost to Froch, before the KO he pretty much dominated him and completey outboxed him.

    The Froch fight was a last chance for him to regain the title and he messed it up, but now he's been given an immediate chance to make amends. Take away the last round and he looked good against Froch and he'll know that he can't make the same mistake again against any of the other 5 fighters. And I don't think he will. I've got a feeling that if he boxes sensibly and guards against his stamina problems, he can go ahead and beat any of the other 5. Simply be outboxing them.

    What do you think?
     
  2. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    i think so.

    though your statement that he can outbox the other five is slightly off the mark.
     
  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    He is defo being overlooked.
     
  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you talking about? 'Taylor upsets AA' threads are all over the place. Also it's the closest of the R1 polls, so not at all. While AA should be favored, it's more than reasonable to give Taylor at least a decent chance and I'm not surprised that so many people pick Jermain to win. AA is no conditioning king or a busy pressure fighter, and so far stamina was Taylor's biggest challenge, when he was pushed through 12 rounds. AA is just not your punching machine, and that makes this fight so damn hard to pick. It's gonna be a boxing match.
     
  5. It might be a stretch, but who do you think he doesn't outbox?
     
  6. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    kessler wont let him get in a rhythm...

    froch will in no way let fight no.1 happen again...

    abraham will test his chin like no other..

    direll is fairly slick but unproven...

    ward v taylor is the fight for me!
     
  7. gigogreco

    gigogreco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nope im certainly not overlooking taylor. Its funny though, that it seems as alot of amercans are more prone to choose between ward and direll, when picking a winner. (it seems that way on esb at least)

    Im actually one of the few, who thinks taylor is gonna outpoint and win a UD against AA.

    but i cant remember the rest of his prelimenary fights.. perhaps anyone can help.?
     
  8. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not and he's my dark horse to win it. If he sorts his conditioning out, he's a huge force to be rackoned with in the tourney.
     

  9. Having posted this thread, I do still fancy AA to stop Taylor. AA is just a complete monster. Beating Miranda with a broken jaw was unbelievable. I'd love to see Froch v Abraham - that's the most exciting fight i reckon
     
  10. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    I think it is criminal to overlook Taylor's chances. While I feel he certainly is one of the bigger underdogs...the 6 fighters in this tournament are all pretty much on equal levels of talent. Where some are the better fighters, others are more naturally gifted. They are all so even.

    The fact that Taylor was about 1 minute from beating another favorite (Froch) should tell you that he should not be overlooked. I think Taylor could certainly beat Froch in a rematch. he also has a good chance of giving Abraham a tough fight if he keeps it at distance, and maybe even beats him.

    However, I don't see any way Taylor beats Kessler and I don't think he can beat Ward either. Kessler is a better boxer puncher than Pavlik and IMO would totally neutralize Taylor.
     
  11. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If anything Taylor won't let what happened in the first fight happen again. Froch was/is not capable of controlling the pace of the fight with Taylor. Taylor is just far more skilled than he is. Froch just has much better stamina. You can't say Froch beat Taylor because he figured him out, he beat him because Taylor was completely out of gas and rather than just running the last round he listened to the terrible advice of his trainer and tried to win it. I would bet my life that JT would take Froch in a rematch.
     
  12. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'm overlooking him
     
  13. I tend to agree with this I'm afraid Socrates...
     
  14. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't say he is being overlooked, as he hasn't impressed of late and has been in a steady downward spiral. Logic would probably tell us that another brutal KO loss will not do him much good mentally, and its possible that he will decline even further.

    On the other hand, if he wakes up to himself as a result of the Froch fight, and trains harder than ever, improving his conditioning and getting his head in the right place, it isn't unreasonable to see him beating a lot of the guys in the lineup.

    Ward and Dirrell are relatively untested, Abraham has a low output and Taylor has always been quite sharp offensively, we already know he can give Froch a tough fight (although contrary to popular belief, Taylor was by no means schooling Froch, as he essentially lost the entire second half of the fight), Kessler could be rusty etc etc.

    With that said i am fairly cynical, and back Abraham (possibly behind on the cards) and Froch to stop him in a close fight, Kessler too.
     
  15. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I completely agree with you, besides Kessler (who I hate to say I don't think Taylor can beat), Ward is the one that worries me. Ward is the one guy in this tournament who's boxing skills are I think better than Taylor's. I feel like Ward has the most pure boxing ability of anyone in this tournament.