Is Ezzard Charles a top ten Heavyweight?

Would you call the steele v apostoli rematch a lhw fight?

 

Because during that era all fighters of 170lb would often fight 190-200lb opponents. Can you find a career lightheavyweight who did not fight heavyweights before 1960? The lightheavyweight title was just a belt for fighters within the heavyweight division who could make 175lb. Until boxing evolved to a time where lightheavyweight was an exclusive weight class that only fought other 175 pounders the division was what it says on the tin. a "light" heavyweight.

 

It would be termed by most as a MW bout, as long as no title was on the line.

But technically, it was a LHW bout, yes.

 

do you think that fight had more significance in the lhw division or the mw division?

 

Oh, it had no significance whatsoever as a LHW bout.

It was, for all practical purposes, a MW bout.

But technically, it was a LHW bout.



You had mentioned that 180 would be a HW bout whereas 176 wouldn't be.



I was pulling your chain as a maths teacher. (I thought the emoticon would have indicated that.)

Since 175 was the limit, anything above that moves things up a division.

If you start allowing limits (subjectively) other than the official limits, where does it end ?

You call 176 a LHW and 180 a HW, so presumably there is some boundary between 176 and 180 that you would consider the 'true' boundary.

But that has already been set, and it's 175 !

So it was just a technical (and somewhat frivolous) point that I was making.


In the Greb-Loughran American LHW title bout of January 1923, both men were (166), much closer to 160 than 175.

Interestingly, and this is in keeping with your viewpoint, later that year, Greb weighed a pound OVER the MW limit when he faced Bryan Downey in a world MW title fight !

 

Yeah I knew you were yanking my chain.

I basically look at a couple pounds each way of the limit depending on where the next limit is.

I decide whether a fight means more in one division than the other.

Example anything less that 138 and more than 133 I'd call LW.

I know there's official limits but i don't pay much attention.

 

Quite possibly the best light heavy ever, and certainly a top 10 p4p. But I just don't think he did enough at heavyweight to warrant making top 10... Too many guys to compete with.

 

:good

 

he fought more heavyweights than anything else and was a heavyweight the longest. charles was a genuine LH for 18 months yet he was never an exclusive lightheavyweight.

 

fixed :good

 

The Brits recognized Lee Savold actually,but, well.....

 

haha:good

 

No worries!