Is felix trinidad top 75 atg

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  1. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    iknow people don't believe he was top 50 because of the disastrous results at the end of his career.Is he top 75 though:cool:
     
  2. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    Hell no, this is not a popularity contest, voting or acknowleging that someone is an atg (in this case top75).

    Just look back into the days of the old timers - there alone you should find enough fighters who are rather a top75 atg than tito...
     
  3. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    He isn't an all time great.....he lost to nearly all the big timers he fought......ATG doesnt mean decent fighter not from Europe that had some big fights....Mayweather, De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Hopkins, Whittaker are ATG but no way can Tito be considered a great
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Tito's a HOF, but not an ATG in my opinion. Real elite ATG's simply don't lose as badly as he did when he was still fresh.

    DLH for example, has much more claim than Tito, never being dominated despite losing some.
     
  6. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    DLH, Mayweather jr and RJJ are 100% certainties to be known as all time greats....Mayweather needed the win over oscar to seal that but oscar was already and ATG by then and even when he loses again later this year he was still the golden boy of a generation...tito lost way too many fights
     
  7. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    So you're saying that no one can be an ATG if they get dominated in their prime right?
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    DLH is far from a certainty as an ATG, but Mayweather is a certainty and RJJ is cemented.
     
  9. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    so if oscar squeezes a decision out of the mayweather fight is he an ATG??
     
  10. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    tito lost 3 fights, oscar is about to lose his sixth as you pointed out.
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Not at all, but Tito is particularly limited, was dominated BADLY twice when he was not at his best weight of course, but was still at a good age.

    Both of the types that dominated him were defensive counter punchers, obviously he can't deal with that style, but he couldn't deal with DLH for a number of rounds either.

    He's got an 'okay' resume, but overall, he's really not that impressive despite being exciting and most real top 75 ATG's, were always at least in a fight, not shutout and made to look like an amatuer twice.
     
  12. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    trinidad never lost in his prime weights
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Getting totally dominated twice is far worse than losing 4 very competitive fights.:yep
     
  14. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    who ranks higher for you then buddy in all time listings...oscar or tito?? just your opinion im after not facts and stats
     
  15. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    for me its areally tough call.I say tito by a really slim margin,because i genuinely thought he won the fight with oscar 115-114,but then tomorrow i might have a different opinion for me it's that close.In 2002 ring magazine did their 80 best fighters of the last 80 years.They listed tito #51 and oscar #75.Of course things have changed since 2002 the winky wright fight for example and de le hoya-sturm.