Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer ?

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  1. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beating Winky Wright by a disputed decision is Ferando's career highlight.I don't quite subscribe to the notion that beating Ike Quartey is a automatic ticket to the hall of fame. Fernandos prime and list of accomplishments was too short. I'd vote, no, Fernando doesn't get in.
     
  2. mking

    mking Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do think he was a good fighther, but not a hall of famer. He couldnt beat the A+ competition.
     
  3. Pound4poundx

    Pound4poundx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is no way that Quartey will make the hall of fame. Vargas didn't just lose to Trinidad, Mosely, and De La Hoya, he was brutally KO'd by all three. His popularity and the fact that he was the youngest 154 pound champion ever will be taken into consideration.
     
  4. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think he gets in but he is one of those either just in or just out scenarios. Winky was a very good win while Quartey was a good win. Campas and Marquez help but only a little. I just don't see that as enough to get in. He had a short peak and too few notable wins while losing his four biggest fights.
     
  5. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    ehh i dont know man...a win over oscar or trini would've done it.......so i dont really think so
     
  6. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In the nicest way possible"Hell No..he didnt beat any great fighters,his undefeated record was ended by winky wright who was a nobody at that time...In all his big Fights he got knocked out,Vargas was always a bit overrated,Come on man this should even be a question!!!
    If Fernando Vargas gets in the hall of fame then Ricardo Mayorga might as well get into the hall of fame,hell lets add Peter Manfredo too while we at it SMH
     
  7. ABN3R

    ABN3R ¡Acho! A mi plín Full Member

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    No, not enough of a impact
     
  8. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    i give the guy mad respect, a true warrior but he lost all his truly big fights, shaved a close one over winky, and used roids and still got destroyed by oscar... so no
     
  9. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Good post and i agree with the contents. Vargas was exciting and thrilling for boxing and did make the big fights. But, he suffers for longevity and loses his biggest fights.

    I generally give fighters more credit for fighting and losing against top opposition then fighting nobodies for most of their career. This is a very close decision in my estimation, had he barely lost to the above mentioned I would say yes. I am really on the fence on this one.
     
  10. kirk

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    He is the youngest jr middle champ in history
    win over winky
    win over ike
    a top 10 P4P fighter in 1999


    HOF fights with Trinidad and Hoya




    But i just dont know.... im probably vargas's biggest fan and i think its on the fence, what hurts him isnt that he lost to tito, hoya and mosley, as they are great great fighters.... but that he doesnt have more significant wins in his career imo, and being on top for such a short time. its a tough call
     
  11. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. His win over Winky is very controversial. And he was brutally KOed in all his biggest fights.
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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  13. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    He will probably get there some where along the line but i dont think his career warrants it.
     
  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't think he deserves it.Don't think Norris deserved it either.Victory over Wright was a big WHAT?A victory over Ike Quartey(good fighter nonetheless) warrants it.Was ko'd in his biggest fights.Good and tough,but not HOF.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    So just to clarify - the question is will, not should?

    I know it says will, but ESB has a full-on bell curve...it's best if you dumb down anything that might include nuance with full clarification. :good