Is ferocious punching power mostly genetics?

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    For people with great timing
     
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  2. iloverachel

    iloverachel Member banned Full Member

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    im going to train my grip with hand grippers and forearm curls. I want to increase punching power
     
  3. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good point. Roids dont hurt.
     
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  4. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Growth spurt
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    The myth of genetics has been debunked. Look into Ray Comfort, who has been debunking stuff like this for decades.
     
  6. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    This is a pretty interesting breakdown. The author breaks down punchers into 3 main types with examples:-

    The Brute
    Typical Examples: Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Earnie Shavers


    The ultimate in heavy-handedness, these boxers do not necessarily have the speed to be explosive of the long limbs to generate leverage. Often, their power seems to some from nowhere and there is no better example than the demolition of Joe Frazier at the hands of George Foreman. This is the same Frazier that went life and death with Jerry Quarry, Muhammad Ali and Ken Norton, but what battered from pillar to post by a foreman that did not look like he was trying for one second.

    The Grenade
    Typical Examples: Roy Jones Jr, David Haye, Mike Tyson


    While being different shapes, what unites these boxers is their ability to use their athletic ability to generate significant speed and with it, force. Often the kings of the highlight reel knockouts, they are among the most loved boxers. However, these athletic gifts do not last forever and over time, the knockout percentage drops, in contrast to the brute who never loses the ability to punch.

    The Catapult
    Typical Examples: Thomas Hearns, Alexis Arguello, Deontay Wilder, Vernon Forrest


    These boxers are usually the tall and thin fighters with high knockout percentages. Their power cmes from their incredibly long levers. Many of these boxers possess well above-average limb length, with a correspondingly below average torso length. It means they are able to generate great momentum through accelerating over a greater distance. Knockouts such as Thomas Hearns stopping Roberto Duran are testament to the damage a punch can do when given time to reach terminal velocity.

    More at the link below:

    https://www.fieldboxing.com/what-makes-a-boxer-heavy-handed
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    If you can't generate enough power to punch your way through cobwebs or take a pop on the whiskers you're completely worthless to me as both a fighter and a human being and if you're not devoting a significant amount of your time to ridiculing these defective freaks and embarrassments to our sport on social media you're part of the problem and I have zero respect for you.
     
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  8. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Anecdotal but I definitely feel more impact hitting the bag when my back fills out from doing rows.
     
  9. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Paulie TKO'd Senchenko when he moved up to 147.
     
  10. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Punchers are born not made. You can look as solid as you want and train as hard as you can but you either have it or you don’t. Look at Tim Bradley. Strong man with a good build who looks like he could punch. He’s pillowfisted asf. Look at Tommy Hearns. 6”1 welterweight who was lanky and lean but could punch like a mule kicks. It’s genetics.
     
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  11. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Ferocious
     
  12. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Are you a pro boxer?
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    And yet, listen to the mitts as Tim trains with Tommy. At 3:20, Hearns shows him to throw from the shoulder and the jab is noticeably stiffer. Later his right hand also improves with a few adjustments. There's definitely a genetic component, but it can only be maximized through technique.

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  14. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    I don’t think it’s meant like, “this is my DNA, therefore I punch hard.”

    But rather that some people are more naturally athletic than others, and that athleticism presents itself in it’s own unique way. There are many sports that require great physical individual qualities. You’d be hard pressed to find one that didn’t require the individuals to be born with a natural advantage at the top of the game.

    Bolt trained hard, no doubt, but he was clearly freakishly fast naturally.

    Messi trains hard, no doubt, but his balance, reaction time, general technique, and footballing IQ was already superior, or the ingredients were already there to make him superior.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I know from personal experience that strength training has increased my power but I think it has to be the right kind of training. I think part of the reason Joe Smith hits so hard can be attributed to all that manual labour he does.