Is Floyd And His Imitators Style The Reason Boxing Isn't A Mainstream Sport In The US

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CST80, Mar 27, 2015.


  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Mayweather seems to be keeping it alive if anything.
     
  2. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There definitely need to be some major rule changes amd old spoiling rules need to be enforced.

    A major difference between boxing and MMA is that if fighters are abusing the rules to win MMA will change the rules.

    Boxing is like baseball. Too caught up in tradition to change with the times.

    First change I would make is "Ring Generalship" needs to go. It assumes that the judge can get into the heads of the fighters. If ring generalship is effective you will hit them more and be hit less. There is no reason for it to exist in scoring.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Imagine the possibilities of how far the sport could have gone in terms of popularity had Floyd actually tried to entertain while boxing. It could have been huge once again but as Floyd says he doesn't care how he wins as long as he wins, which translates as not to entertain the fans.
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    No, there are too many things wrong with boxing and Floyd is just one man. The problems were already there to see before he even got started and you can see them in the careers of Roy Jones Jr and Oscar De La Hoya. The problem is systematic and varied. They probably go back to the eighties or even earlier: the US not investing in an amateur program, the break up of the major sanctioning bodies, etc.
     
  5. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree boxing would still be alive without scumweather jr.
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Take Floyd out of boxing and who do the casuals watch? People aren't sayin boxing is dead because of Floyd lol.

    There are hardly any crowd pleasing fighters that the casuals want to watch here nd abroad except Floyd and Pac. Nobody knows GG or Kovalev. The casuals don't. People still don't know Wlad. There is no Dlh, Shane or Roy...or even a Calzaghe around. Just think about it right now. Even Lennox was known here in the States. That was an allstar line up with those names.

    Todays fighters here and abroad. Lets view their popularity.

    Lets go to hvy: After Wlad who? Casuals are starting to hear a lil bit about Wilder, but he's still unknown to the public.

    Lets go to CW... Next.

    LHW- The casuals don't know anyone in that division although Kov is getting some exposure. They don't know Stevenson either.

    SMW- Froch and Ward aren't known world wide. People know Froch overseas, not here.

    MW- Cotto is the most known. After him you have GG and Quillin. The casuals only know Cotto.

    WW-Floyd and Pac are the only names casuals care about at ww. While Thurman made a good showing, he is still an unknown commodity. People still have a bad memory of Khan.

    JWW- The casuals might know Broner and Garcia and that's about it.

    LW- Check

    SFW-Nobody

    FW-There are names there, but casuals don't know them. Donaire is the only big name, and nobody knows what Walters did to him. They don't know Loma either.

    SBW- From Super bantam all the way down to strawweight, the casuals don't know anyone, just diehards know Frampton and Rigo.

    The diehard fan is keeping boxing alive everywhere. Boxing becomes popular and more known when the hvw champion is popular. Wlad could be a popular hvw, but his opponents lack a name. Wlad Wilder could be big as long a Wilder gets exposure.
     
  7. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    oscar de la hoyas last few pathetic efforts. lennox cleaning out the american hws. the klits dominating for years. those are a few of the top reasons.
     
  8. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Boxing would more popular if Floyd had acted like Sugar Ray Leonard or even Oscar Delahoya and fought the best at their best ..It would have given boxing memorable fights and could have created a few more stars ..But because he. Cherry picked his way it actually hurt the sport !
     
  9. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    There are really no objective replies here lol. This thread had potential, but after reading some of the answers, people blame Floyd for no reason and he sells the most ppvs here in America.

    Hvw champions used to fight on ppv including Lennox and everyone would tune in. All the casuals care about today is Floyd, Pac, Wlad, and that's about it. And I'm talking around he world. The casuals are clueless everywhere.
     
  10. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    The funny thing is people will tune in to good fights everywhere here and abroad.

    BUT......they just don't care to follow the boxers unless its a Pac, Floyd or Wlad.
     
  11. kirk

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    Someone could say how much bigger could it be if Mayweather did things differently, but I don't think hes the cause or responsible for the lack of interest.

    I actually think boxing is more popular now, more mainstream now, in the mayweather and pac era then it was slightly before it (2003 to 2006) I actually think boxing has made a mini resurgence in the last half a dozen years.
     
  12. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1) The Olympics/Amateur scoring system needs a serious revamp.

    2) How many boxing gyms do you see around your neighborhood? It's a dying art form. (There are plenty of martial art (pick a discipline) and MMA gyms)

    3) The "helicopter Parent" society we've created in the US won't allow children to do anything with risk. Heck, parents complain if you run their child too hard during a practice. (not joking)

    4) Liability issues for youth boxing in schools. (See above) High School boxing teams are a thing of the past.
     
  13. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there is one about a mile from me.
     
  14. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal
     
  15. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And you would be in the minority.