Is Floyd Mayweather a COWARD??????? Or just not a peoples kind of champ?

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  1. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    has the least amount of confidence of any other supposed great in Boxing history. Why does he fear losing so much........why doesnt he fight a live opponent. Days are numbered belive me.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He's not a coward, he just wants the easiest path to the most money ala' DLH. I must say, his greatness is becoming rather overrated here.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    This post is a bit misleading.

    Gatti hadn't lost in a few years , and was coming off a couple of big wins when he fought Floyd, he was the WBC champ, and he was Ring magazine's no.1 rated fighter

    This was a stay busy fight. Fights with Winky and Zab didn't materialize. He had this date already set aside and he took this fight to stay active. He even admitted after the fight that this wasn't the fight he wanted

    Tszyu had beat Judah like 5 or 6 years earlier at a different weight class. Is no one supposed to fight the guy again? Is Cotto a coward for fighting him? What about Mosley? Furthermore, Judah was the undisputed WW champ when Floyd originally agreed to fight him(Baldo almost ruined the fight)

    Tszyu was a showtime fighter, and was often injured. His loss to Hatton ruined any chances of him fighting Mayweather.

    That's not true, he had just fought one year earlier. Furthermore, this was a fight that alot of people wanted to see.

    Baldomir was his 4th choice. DLH didn't want to fight until the spring, Mosley didn't want to screw DLH over by fighting him, and the fans complained when he tried to fight Spinks. Furthermore, the fans always put all of this stock into the lineal champ. Many people were clamoring for him to fight the supposed "real" champ at WW

    Hatton only fought one other time at WW, and he won a title in that fight. And it's not like Floyd is a huge WW. Floyd is only about 5 '7, he started at SFW and walks around at about 150.

    How the hell can you fight at the level he's been fighting at for as long as he has and be a coward. This sport is not for the cowardly.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Here's a TOTALLY DIFFERENT scenario:

    You're in high school, and you constantly pick on guys you know you can beat up. One day, some new guys come to your school, and they look like guys who MIGHT give you trouble. They challenge you, since you're seen as the top dog, and yet you say NO and go beat up the other nerdlings as usual. So you keep clear from them at any cost. What does that make you? :think
     
  5. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    do you consider kosta zyu a greater fighter:deal your standards for greatness belong in the toilet with my ****:good
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Holy ****!! Someone start a Pac vs. Floyd thread and call Johnco. Imagine these two assholes going at it for free!!! :deal
     
  7. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what a ****ing idiot are you saying hatton and oscar are less skilled then miguel cotto:nut
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: You have no ability to read don't you?

    Why QUOTE someone if you are just going to reply with some nonesense little boy?
     
  9. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    How is he a coward, he just KTFO of Hatton, somethign no one else has come close to doing.

    Not only that but he fought Hattons fight, staying on the inside and exchanging.

    He could have easily ran and pot shotted like he did the Baldo fight, but he gave fans an entertainnig scrap that fight.

    The DLH fight he gave DLH every single concession that DLH wanted to make it happen. Now of course this was more for him and his paycheck than the fans but it still was a big deal to jump to 154 and take the fight on DLHs terms.



    " Fought a weak champion in Baldomir"

    the dude that said this, come on that is just ******ed. Zab was the man at 147, undisputed. The upset came in and Baldo won. The Zab-PBF fight was already being set up and peopel wanted to see it, PBF fought him and won far and square. Now there were doubts as who the man should be at 147 and so PBF went and wide UDed Baldo. PBF had to take this fight to prove he was the man at 147.


    Thats what you have to do sometimes is to fight two guys to see who the man is. Tyson did the same thing, fought Holmes and Spinks just to clear up who was really the man at that time.
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    This scenario makes no sense. Floyd was clear underdog against the much bigger fighter in the form of Hernandez, and was also the underdog against the bigger Corrales. After winning a tough and controversial match against Castillo, he gave him an immediate rematch. Hatton and Cotto weren't ready for him at 140. Judah was the undisputed champ at WW when he first agreed to fight him. At that time everyone wanted to see those two fight, and many though Judah would win. He also went up in weight and gave up over 10 lbs. in weight to DLH. The only guy that's missing is Cotto, and the timing hasn't been there that often for those two to fight. Regardless, that's a fight that needs to happen.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Not talking about his days @ 130 or 135 where he showed some major balls.
     
  12. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    The Cotto fight needs to happen, but remember that Cotto is under Bob Arum which is probably hurting that fight being made.
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I covered his whole career. Cotto and possibly Margo are the only two legitimate threats that he didn't make an effort to fight. Not suprisingly, both of those guys are promoted by a guy he hates.
     
  14. DanePugilist

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    I dont read Ring Magazine, nor do I think very highly of it. Seemingly you use these written sources more than you actually watch the fights, and whom they are against. DLH obliterated Gatti in 01. Gatti went life and death vs a lvl C fighter in Micky Ward. Entertaining yes, quality no. Anyone with eyes in their head knew that Gatti was no match for Floyd.

    Why not fight Tszyu at this point. Why not Margarito. Why not DLH? Once you reach a certain stage in your career - these kind of fights should not happen very often - especially if you are considered to be P4P no. 1.

    Again, if you want to prove yourself, then its not the right way to just beat fighters that others have beaten before you, much less many years before you. Cotto is an up and coming fighter, Mosley is entering his twillight years. Floyd should be neither.

    He could have faced him right after Tszyu beat Judah. That would have been ballsy, just like taking on Margo would have been when he was considered his biggest threat. He did neither.

    True - 1 fight in 3 years, and a fighter that is nowhere near prime. Would have been great if Floyd had taken on the others before that - but he never did. The scenarios are the same endlessly.

    I knew when Baldomir became champ, that this was the one Floyd would pick. He was a weak and slow champ, who beat a mentally unstable Zab Judah, whom have failed at almost every stage, except when reclaiming his title from Spinks.

    Okay, was pretty sure that the Urango fight was at WW as well. Nonetheless - picking Hatton may seem a good fight on paper. But the facts are: He has rarely fought at 145, and when he did, he had a terrible fight. Floyd being 150(most certainly on fightnight as well) makes it uneven. It is no secret that Hatton is best at 140, and why did it only happen, when Hatton had looked like crap for a long time - it should have been directly after he beat Tszyu. Again - he didn't.

    Well, I consider one to be a coward, when you avoid boxers, when they are considered you most dangerous opponent, and then face them when they are either:

    Overthehill.
    Above their natural weight.
    Avoiding them till someone else have defeated them.
    Meet them when they have been crap for long.

    If you don't see this as hand picking fights and seemingly still have a great deal of people thinking that you are P4P no. 1, without ever facing your most dangerous opponents at the given point they are considered to be so - then you are a coward.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Casamayor....Spadafora...Johnston. Would have liked to see those. And that guys he hates made him a million several times over. WHy does he hate Arum so much? :huh