Is Floyd Mayweather overrated?

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Is Floyd Mayweather overrated?

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  1. No, he's the best ever like he says

    25.0%
  2. Yes, he was carefully matched

    75.0%
  1. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yup
     
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  2. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yup again, lol
     
  3. steviebruno

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    Collazo beat Ortiz and should've gotten the nod against an undefeated Andre Berto. I wouldn't call him C level, as he was better than anyone Hatton had fought outside of Tszyu.

    Hatton was 40-0, but he had fought exactly one fighter who posed a serious challenge to him. He moved up and fought a very solid welterweight who was bigger and had spent his entire career there.

    His next figjt at welter would be against one of the GOATs, and he got dealt with in the same way that he would've been dealt with at 140.

    If there is any doubt, think about what happened when he fought another ATG at 140 after moving back down to a weight where he was allegedly better.

    Hatton was the same guy at 140 and 147. His mauling style simply did not succeed against better, stronger, more versatile fighters.

    He'd have lost to Bradley at 140. Cotto, too. He'd have his hands full with an Amir Khan. Please stop pretending that his 40-0 record meant more than it actually did.
     
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  4. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    ****ing hell - can you read ? At no point have I stated Hatton is good . My point (which I’m repeating for thousandth time now) is Mayweathers resume is cherrypicked and full of asterisks , with Mayweather fighting Hatton at a below optimum weight.

    And Collazo was at best C+ level stop sugarcoating shite. oh wow he beat undefeated Berto?! Because Berto was a world beater right
     
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  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Collazo has made no such impact at WW to come to that conclusion. He gave some good fighters a tough time, but otherwise, did nothing of note.
     
  6. steviebruno

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    Name Hatton's best opposition at 140 outside of Tsyzu.
     
  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is that how you think it works?

    How about you tell me why Collazo is better than anyone else Hatton beat at 140? What had Collazo accomplished for you to rate him so highly?

    But here's an easy one already.... Paulie Malignaggi. Here's another, Cool Vince Phillip. Heard of him? BOTH greater than Luis Collazo.
     
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  8. steviebruno

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    40 year old Vince Phillips? Nah. And Collazo performed much better against the elites than feather-fisted Malignaggi, who was pretty much dog walked whenever he tried to step up. You are deluding yourself if you think Paulie was a stiffer test than Collazo... and you and I both know that Ricky would've handled Paulie the same way at 147.

    Hatton fought a bunch of no-hopers at 140. At worst, Collazo at 140 would be his third toughest test after Pac and Tsyzu. Kostya quit, but Pac had stopped him in two rounds. Two rounds.

    Hatton looked like Hatton at 147, IMO. He just found another guy that gave him stylistic problems and was also physically stronger than he was. There were other guys like that around at 140 that Hatton never tried to fight.
     
  9. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude, all you are doing is poo-pooing Hatton's record. I asked what Collazo did to make himself so much better? The answer is nothing. Collazo was a WW gatekeeper for the most part.

    You can repeat all you want how Hatton at 147 was the same exact guy at 140, but no one of serious note would agree. Maybe a few idiots or trolls here might.
     
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  10. C.J.

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    Stevie looking in the mirror again lol
     
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    The poll " Is Floyd overrated " look at the results, almost 75% of the forum voted YES!!!!!!! Only the deluded Flo Mos voted no because they treat him as a God ROFL So the Flo mos call us 75% HATERS !!!
    Guess it figures by the deluded way they post
     
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  12. steviebruno

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    How many rounds does Hatton last against Pacquiao at 147?

    How many does he win against PBF at 140?
     
  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Irrelevant really. Hatton loses to both at either weight. And likely gets starched at 147 just as fast by Pac. This is about which weight Hatton was at his best. Again, that's 140 as evident by his record. If you need to continue thinking about which weight was his best, watch him at both.

    And if you still want to say how Collazo was better than anyone Hatton faced aside from Tszyu, actually discuss Collazo's record, not just bringing up Hattons.
     
  14. The Long Count

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    Depends on context. Is he a hall of fame level fighter absolutely. Was he carefully matched, yes that is also true. In terms of best ever, yes clearly overrated.
     
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  15. Alo2006

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    Far from overrated!
     
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