Is Floyd the only fighter considered an ATG that hasnt fought another ATG???

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  1. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    he fought and beat delahoya, or there isn't an ATG in this era at welterweight if the first part of the answer doesn't suit you. He fought the greatest fighters of his era. Except tszyu.
     
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  2. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Pryor does H2H. He was better than his resume suggests.
     
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  3. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry I meant ATG in their weight class, not P4P.
     
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  4. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There are two ways to become an ATG:

    1. Beat a prime(or near it) ATG + some more good competition
    2. Consistently beat good competition
     
    elgrancampeon, Nov 24, 2008
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  5. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I believe that, he would have been a nightmare for everyone, even Duran.. McCAllum was the same, you wouldnt want to mess with him in his prime..The Fab four avoided him for a reason, theyd all get beat
     
    chimba, Nov 24, 2008
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  6. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And what P4P ATG could Mayweather have fought?

    Mosley, Tszyu, Casamayor, Trinidad? Are these guys All Time Greats?
     
    Asterion, Nov 24, 2008
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  7. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Agreed totally, but heres a question..
    Can a guy like Floyd surpass a guy like Pernell in any list?
    A guy with good competition with a couple of ATG in resume
     
    chimba, Nov 24, 2008
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  8. Thread Stealer

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    The Fab 4 "avoided" him because they were either retired, in a different weight class, or had other lucrative options. Basically, it was risk/reward, which is the reason for just about all the cases of fighters being "avoided" or "ducked".

    Duran could've fought Mike when Mike was the mandatory, because he could make 10 times as much fighting Hagler. Later he got stripped for not fighting Mike, but he fought Hearns instead.

    Leonard was largely inactive during this time period.

    Hagler was a middleweight. McCallum was a junior middleweight until after Hagler retired.

    Hearns-McCallum at 154 in the mid 80s would've been great.
     
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  9. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    DLH for me is knockin on top 50 ATG he is there beating PAc as ridiculous as that sounds
     
    chimba, Nov 24, 2008
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  10. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I agree with Hagler. Although SRL has stuck long enough to make the fight happen, the story with Duran backin out was what prompted this he was avoided story. I think McCallum and Hearns would have abeen a war similar to teh Hagler fight, I think Mike would have done th same
    he had an unbelievable chin, great technical skills and would have killed Hearns torso
     
    chimba, Nov 24, 2008
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  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Mosley was the closest one in his prime, he would have been his greatest foe at 135-140
     
    chimba, Nov 24, 2008
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  12. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hate to be the one that tell you this, but at least 8 to 10 fighters that has fought in the past 15 years will soon be entering that group...If you look at that list there were only a few active fighters on the list, so if you think of any of the fighters active now as all time greats the chances are they have beat an ATG:good
     
    1lehudson, Nov 24, 2008
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  13. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    mayweather corrales
    mayweather judah
    mayweather hatton
    mayweather delahoya
    mayweather castillo


    is it mayweathers fault these guys are just not equal to him...ODH is a great...cotto and margarito are not so what is the point of this thread
     
    pauliemayweathe, Nov 24, 2008
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  14. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    I wished that fight had happened, but they never could get HBO and ShowTime to agree on terms.
     
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  15. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    margo is not top 1000 atg
     
    pauliemayweathe, Nov 24, 2008
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