Is Floyd to good, or is there a lack of competition?

A lot of insight there, and a lot of sense.

I can't find much to quibble with, but just one or two points.

True, fighters from yesteryear fought much more frequently, but while that provided more learning experience, it also wore the poor buggers out at a faster rate.

I would expect that overall, the learning outweighed the wear and tear. And everybody else was in the same boat as far as wear went, whereas the 'naturals' nowadays are less diminished by the dearth of experience, as they have less need or it.


If we were back to the original weight classes, there would be more competition within the divisions. The number of divisions, especially at the lighter end, seems a bit excessive. We could probably have done with the addition of a SuperHW division (200 lbs and over) to the original eight, and left the rest alone.

But we have a lot of weight-jumping in this era that was much rarer in bygone days. (Pac, Floyd, Hearns, RJJ etc) so these guys can get to meet a wider range of competition.

In olden days, Canelo would probably be a MW by now and would have had those extra fights at higher level. Maybe he would have been 'screened out' (or at least, down) by now, maybe not. Moreover, he very well might never have met Floyd, who might have followed Armstrong's path of FW, LW and WW and stopped there.

I agree that Floyd is one of the game's naturals and that has more to do with his dominance than the overall lack of competition. And that's why I'm a bit puzzled at his (relatively) low ranking in your top 100 list.

I can only assume that your ranking criteria are responsible for this.

 

I'm missing something here.

I had meant that you perhaps rank Floyd a bit low.

 

WTF just happened ???

I responded to a post that morphed. Ignore this.

 

(I think I see what happened here).

Anyway, regarding the Floyd ranking question, the very colourful explanation notwithstanding , it appears to boil down to criteria, and the weighting of said criteria.

 

Take every fighter at 140 and 147, line them up and go down the line. Ask yourself can this man beat Floyd. When you finish the list and all your responses is no then you have answered your question. He is just too good at this time.

 

Every time two big lads get in the ring, anything's possible.

But I would probably give him less chance than I was giving Canelo a fortnight ago.

I think Wlad will play it safe and the fight will resemble his bout with Chagaev.

Hopefully, not too safe and resemble Maskaev. :yep


BTW,
I note that big Brother has disappeared from the TBRs ?

I assume it has something to do with inactivity ?

 

I just noticed another quirk in this thread.

I posted MASKAEV when I meant to post IBRAGIMOV, two posts back.

Oh those Russians !

 

Didnt fight Williams, wright, PAC
Not old Shane and Oscar

The only good fights he could have made, he ducked

What a wasted career

 

how the hell could he fight wright?
do you know how big he was? the guy was a true super middle weight dwarfing himself because he hit like a jr middle

 

Just for your info, Mr. Him, Floyd called Wright out in 2006.

But don't let that stop you.

 

Yesteryear fighters actualy truly had to fight for a living because the paydays were not like today. So they had to box constantly and practice constantly stay in shape constantly...all of them and thats why we have so many good fighters then and most our ATG's are from then because they fought a lot more and dedicated themselves to the craft of boxing out of necessity....like i said it was how they ate.

This is why Floyd is leaps and bounds better....he thinks and dedicates his life to boxing since he was a pup.

Most the rest get these paydays and balloon go on extended vaccations and dont even stay in shape or fine tune their craft.....Floyd does.....just like the old greats!