Is Floyds Resume One Of The Best Ever? Could you give me some insight, I'm not too familiar with it

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  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I work in healthcare. 750mL of saline is routinely used for dehydration and restoration of normal ionic serum levels. It can also be used to flush a system (for infection or to dilute a substance such as drugs as in delirium...or PEDs), but Manny and Floyd gave blood and urine randomly. Dont see how getting 750mL of NSS does anything to mask PEDs that the random urine/blood tests couldnt detect.

    Its honestly not something to fixate on
     
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  2. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol It’s all they have. They can’t let it go.
     
  3. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was against the rules and retroactively given a TUE a month after it happened. It is something to fixate on.
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bro you must be new to boxing if you think Canelo was his best win. Also manny was robbed by Bradley and beat him decisively in a rematch before Floyd, don't you dare try and discredit Floyd. Cotto was also a great win at JMW.
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    What you don't seem to understand is Floyd KNOWINGLY cheated. He knew the NSAC rules same as everyone else. How he got the Saline & equipment into his own house to use 24 hours before the fight I don't know. All he had to do was apply for a TUE go to a medical facility when it was granted. If he really was dehydrated get the treatment legally. I wonder how many times hes done this before The fact is he CHEATED
     
  6. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His resume is not one of the best ever, because there are so many great fighters that fought other great fighters (sometimes lots of them). But he is certainly the best of his era. Pac is a close second.

    Leonard's record was mentioned earlier, and is a good example of the state of boxing at the time. It just so happened that he competed against ATGs, because they were around at the time. It's not Floyd's fault that there weren't any ATGs around when he fought. Floyd fought just about everyone that was out there, and remained undefeated. Say what you will, but the fights with Castillo have a big 'W' for Mayweather on his record. How man greats of the past have a questionable decision or two on their record?
     
  7. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont know the TUE process but youre reaching at crumbs here. Why would someone even need an exemption for fluid hydration? And why are so many people still clinging to that?

    Nothing that happened during the fight was remotely alarming performance wise
     
  8. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Saline isnt a PED. Why you are so fixated on that I dont know. Why not fixate on Mannys inability to close the distance? Or Mannys hesitation? Or unwillingness to go for broke? Why couldnt Manny cut the ring off better?

    Youre literally complaining about, essentially, water ???

    And it was a **** fight. Sorry it bothered you so much. I still think 2009 Manny beats Floyd but I acknowledge 2009 Manny mayve been on PEDs, too. Who knows?!
     
  9. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac has a BETTER resume than Floyd gtfoh
     
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  10. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    IVs are banned for the purpose of rehydration. Mayweather broke a rule knowingly without an exemption. However, after he was exposed as having done so, he was granted a "retroactive therapeutic use exemption". I'm not a Floyd hater at all, but if you can't see why that caused so much controversy, you're being willfully ignorant.
     
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  11. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    It's a very good resume, but there are better ones out there.
     
  12. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your opinion, just as mine.

    Take a breath man, relax.
     
  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From what I understand Floyd notified USADA the night he got the IV and they granted verbal approval and later a retroactive TUE or something.

    Again, its not something wildly uncommon. Remember when Manny beat ODLH? Roach said when the boxers were touching gloves he could literally see IV marks on ODLH arms and remarked, "they waited to rehydrate him" so he instructed Manny to "jump on him" which clearly was the right call.
     
  14. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True. We just strongly disagree. Mannys work at the lower weights (MAB, Morales, Ledwaba, JMM) in addition to beating pretty much everyone Floyd beat in MORE convincing fashion was insane. Manny beat DLH, Mosley, Hatton, and Cotto MORR convincingly than Floyd did. Manny also beat Margarito who was supposed to be Floyd's boogeyman and he beat Thurman.

    There has not been a fighter like Manny in a LONG time and it will be awhile before we see another.

    far triumphs Floyds
     
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  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Saline as you have already stated can be used to FLUSH THE SYSTEM to dilute & hide any Drugs or PED's
    No one claims its a drug LOL. But it will mask any Peds in the system. If Floyd really was dehydrated surely knowing the NSAC rules on Saline use He would have applied for a TUE & gone about it legally.
    Instead he'd got bags of saline & equipment in his own home & 750 ml at least & was receiving it ILLEGALLY because the NSAC rules state it must be administered in a medical facility.So the bottom line is he got caught cheating when USADA popped up to do a surprise Peds test. No one would have been aware of this had not Thomas Hauser made it public as he should have done. Surely youre not that naïve to believe Floyd was dehydrated ROFL. When asked about Floyd apparently said " ErrErr my urine was dark Err Very dark"ROFL
    He was no more dehydrated than fly.
    Now you answer like all fans of fighters caught cheating do you say " Theyre all doing it" Like you stated
    You thought Manny may well have used Peds too but have nothing that backs that up. To me that was a corruption by all involved
    Manny was not 100% in that fight he was injured & fighting in pain because he was denied his previously permitted LEGAL painkiller Toradol, other wise he may well have beaten Floyd easily To me personally
    that is another black eye for the sport No wonder its at rock bottom
     
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