Is Floyd's win over Ortiz enough to overtake Martinez at P4P #2?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bandido, Sep 18, 2011.


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  1. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Forget P4P #1. The real question is whether or not Floyd has done enough last Saturday to overtake Martinez as PFP #2 or even Donaire as PFP#3. Both fighters have dominated their divisions and would it be fair for Floyd to take the #2 or #3 spot from them?

    I guess this will be the same question that will be asked by the Ring board when they update their P4P ranking next week -- Has Floyd done enough in the Ortiz or was his win against Ortiz worthy enough for him to overtake Donaire and Martinez?

    Let's compare their fights since 1999 (the year when Floyd came back from retirement) and compare their best three wins during that period:

    Martinez - Dzinziruk, Williams, Pavlik, Williams (MD), Cintron (D)
    Donaire - Marquez, Sydorenko, Montiel, Martinez, Concepcion
    Floyd - Marquez, Mosely, Ortiz

    Martinez vs. Floyd
    Williams > Mosely
    Pavlik > Ortiz
    Dzinziruk < Marquez

    Advantage: Martinez (2-1)

    Donaire vs. Floyd
    Montiel > Mosely
    Sydorenko = Ortiz
    H. Marquez < Marquez
    Advantage: Tie.
    However, I give the slight edge to Donaire because of activity.

    My P4P Ranking:

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Sergio Martinez
    3. Nonito Donaire
    4. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
     
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  2. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Yes..The level of skill he has shown throughout his career is stupid...He was making Ortiz look dumb until Ortiz lost his mind and paid for it..

    I'd put Floyd at the 2 spot...arguably the 1 spot...

    Pacquiao has not fought an opponent coming off a GOOD win since he fought Cotto almost 2 years ago..

    Floyd at the 1 spot or 2 spot is arguably where he should be.
     
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  3. Blood Green

    Blood Green Guest

    He's no. 1. **** your rankings.
     
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  4. dwighttsharpe

    dwighttsharpe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    F: Other !
     
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  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :nono

    He's p4p number Emeritus :happy

    1E Floyd
    1. Pac
    2. Sergio
    3. Donaire
    4. Marquez
     
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  6. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is number #1. Very little doubt about that considering bookies will have him at 2 to 1 on Pac if a fight is announced.
     
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  7. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    bandido, Sep 18, 2011
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  8. Blood Green

    Blood Green Guest

    No point in debating because the most popular opinion of Eastside General Forum members is clearly the right one, beyond debating.
     
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  9. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What win? Oh, yea, the sucker punch(ES) heard around the world
     
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  10. The Ring

    The Ring Anti-Nuthugger Full Member

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    I voted for number 2 but he is really number one.

    Name a fighter that can beat Pacman : Mayweather

    Name a fighter that can beat Floyd : :huh

    :yep
     
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  11. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    The way I see it.

    I put Manny at number 1, but nobody beats Floyd 154 and down including Manny
     
    bballchump11, Sep 18, 2011
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  12. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you can't name a fighter who can beat Floyd then you don't know **** about boxing. :hey There's a reason why Floyd is afraid of Pac. There is a reason why Sr is afraid of Pac. There is a reason why Roger said fighting Pac is crazy. And don't come back at me saying "take the test" coz that alone proves how much of a threat Pac is. :yep
     
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  13. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope, as I told many times before the fight Ortiz is terrible.
     
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  14. Chrisgabriel

    Chrisgabriel Active Member Full Member

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    P4P NUMERO UNO, and that`s it.
     
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  15. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    your boi should learn not to put himself in positions he can't handle:deal...probably should learn not to cheat..yea:hat:deal

    your boy Ortiz put himself in that position..his fault, whoops:deal:hi:
     
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