Is Foreman's power overrated?

Foreman was 137 years old when he fought Morrison.

 

no, but i think that you are a ****ing mental ******ed and you should be banned , just a ****ing idiot would question the power of george foreman, a top 2 hardest punchers, probably the strongest hw ever in a ring of boxing ...

 

what a ****ing idiot... foreman was old, fat and slow and he could not catch morrison against the ropes, that´s all, and tommy was a power puncher who traded with ruddock and destroyed him but he was running from george.. it should tell you how powerful was foreman..

 

I would n't necessarily descibe Morrison as 'china chinned'


Take a look at the PRIME Foreman ! His raw power was unbelievable. How many other heavies could bounce Joe Frazier off the canvas like George did in Kingston ?

 

Foreman was very heavy handed, but he was not a concussive type puncher. He clubbed and swung a lot with his punches. He was big and strong so it worked for him, but he had to hit a guy a bunch of times. Was not a sharp hitter.
Compare him to Julian Jackson, Mugabi at his best, Tommy Hearns. Not saying he couldn't hit, but he was not a snap type hitter.

 

:rofl:rofl

 

Common opponents like Leroy Caldwell rated Foreman's punching power as comparable to Ron Lyle's. But George also had immense physical strength [probably the most physical strength of any heavyweight champion], and used that physical strength very aggressively [and illegally, for whatever that's worth], to push and maintain his opponents within punching position on their back feet [rather than using his physical strength to stand his ground legally, like Marciano and Chuvalo did].

Gerry Cooney had the punching power, but not the physical strength. [In fact, Gerry might be the physically weakest of the big power punching heavyweights in modern times.] Lyle didn't have Foreman's physical strength either. Chuvalo was able to match Foreman in physical strength, but not height and reach, or punching power. [This may also have been true for Bonavena, but with Ringo's additional ability to quickly move laterally as he did with Chuvalo, and also Oscar's stamina, it was probably prudent that Big George never tested the Argentinian. Bonavena was dropped by quick surprises from master boxers like Folley, Patterson, Ellis and Ali, never pounded down by sheer punching force and power from the likes of Chuvalo and Lyle.]

All six common opponents of Foreman and Shavers [Charlie Polite, Leroy Caldwell, Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young, Muhammad Ali and Ken Norton] rated Earnie much the harder puncher of the two, but head to head, I think George would shove Earnie on the back foot and take away the power of Shavers, then pound away until Earnie succumbed [that is if Foreman doesn't get caught with the kind of Hail Mary right off the ropes Shavers used to save himself against Tiger Williams].

Foreman is like Jeffries in that each man had the combination of immense physical strength used aggressively in combination with major punching power.

His punching power gets overrated when he's ranked above Shavers among his contemporaries, and he himself seems to go along with the consensus of their common opponents, having witnessed Earnie in competition himself. [He was there at ringside for Shavers against Tiger Williams, among other bouts of Earnie's.] Chuvalo said DeJohn buckled him with a right uppercut [footage which should be available, as the videotape of Chuvalo-DeJohn does exist] but most opponents of the youthful Foreman who did not also face Shavers seem to rate Big George the hardest puncher they fought.

 

Agree :good

 

That was my exact reaction to your comment about Sonny Liston weighing "208" for "tons of his prime fights" when the record clearly shows that he never weighed 208 for a fight in his life. So you're not one to be cursing or laughing at anyone.

Still waiting for a response to that, btw.

 

Not real sure what that means...As to Foreman's punching technique, watch him fight. He was a clubbing, swinging, heavy handed puncher. Gil Clancy trained him for a bit and he said the same thing. it isn't saying anything bad about him- it is verifiable visual truth.

 

I've watched Shavers, Foreman, Ali, Norton train in their prime years. Shavers did not hit harder than Foreman. George hit a 300 pound bag like it was nothing with the percussion from his punches heard loud all through the gym. I've never seen anything like it before or since. Shavers was a huge puncher no doubt but the shear power that Foreman generated was literally frightening. It's the only time I stood in awe watching a hwt fighter in my entire life.

 

I think his power is really a bit underated, yeah he is not knocking guys cold like other guys, but dropping Frazier and Norton in the manner he did was impressive.

I may not have been around in the 1970's, but I still think its shocking that Foreman took out Frazier in the manner he did, thats never happen to Frazier before or since(Unless one counts the rematch)

Foreman has the power to pretty much take any one out, him vs Shavers, they both hit hard, commom foes say Shavers, and I take there word for it, but it takes nothing from Foreman who also was a scary puncher. If you get knockout or stop, you get knockout or stop no matter how hard they hit.

 

good post :good

 

...but I really don't think Shavers punched as hard as Foreman. I think Shavers had awesome power but may by getting overrated these days. Like Anubis said though, even if Shavers did punch harder... Foreman is bigger, stronger, and has a longer reach... Foreman is also a better boxer. Foreman is the much more dangerous fighter regardless.