Is Frazier's Destruction of Foster...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Russell, Feb 3, 2008.


  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, I feel a bit much is made out of a fight that Sports Illustrated labelled a "mis-match" afterwards.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Foster did cut Ali. He outjabbed him the entire fight.

    It's a massive accomplishment alone to cut Ali. The man was almost impossible to connect on or to cut, considering Foster was landing regularly with the jab to the point where he cut Ali up.

    The fact that Foster got up seven times doesn't make it seem overly impressive for Ali either. :lol:

    Just giving Foster a smidgen of credit.
     
  3. mcvey

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    Ali sustaining a cut is NOT having his face torn to shreds,Ali was cut against Bugner too, in another onesided fight.You are doing more than giving Foster credit you are over egging the pudding to an unacceptable degree.Ali TOYED with Foster,he could have gotten him out of there earlier if he had gone to work.
     
  4. mcvey

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    Johansson knocked Patterson down seven times ,Dempsey knocked Willard down multiple times.Think they were close fights?
     
  5. clark

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    I'd say Foster would have beaten Spinks. By the way, Spinks lost to Tyson before he even got in the ring.
     
  6. DamonD

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    Very true, in much the same way Holyfield so often was called a blown-up cruiserweight, when really both guys had built themselves into genuine heavyweights. They were arguably slightly underdone at cruiser. At heavy, they merely lacked the usual extra ten or twenty pounds of fat your average heavyweight carries around. Take your prime Tua and carve off the fat, and he's a 5'10 guy around 210-215 as well...who's going to be brave enough to call him a blown-up cruiser?

    Spinks's preperation was very meticulous and computer-regulated, quite ahead of its time.
     
  7. Muchmoore

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    Umm, Spinks was the unbeaten former Lightheavyweight and Heavyweight Champion, maybe?
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Didn't Tua fight AT 200 at the beginning of his career?

    200 is the cruiser limit now too...
     
  9. mcvey

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    He was 201 for his pro debut ,but soon discovered the fridge.
     
  10. MRBILL

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    Hardcore fans and historian type folks knew then that Tyson was gonna beat Spinks by a KO.... Its just that nobody expected a blow-out..... I personally predicted that Tyson would KO Spinks within 3 rds... The icing really wasn't a shocker to me.... I "Pirated" the fight anyway, so I never felt that I got ripped off.... At any rate, that fight / event sucked the bone....:smoke

    I was only 3 yrs old when Frazier iced Foster in '70. I now own a copy or two of the fight for my collection.. Again, no surprise there... Frazier did what he was suppose to do to a guy 20 pounds lighter than him... The hooks that Frazier nailed Foster with were wicked.... Nuff said... :thumbsup

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  11. Jear

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    Exactly he was considered by many to be the legitimate heavyweight champ at the time
     
  12. Arka

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    Holyfield was a genuine blow up cruiserweight.However,he became a genuine heavyweight later on.You can see the difference in the heaviness of bone structure between the Holyfield,say in the first Bowe fight,and in the Tyson fights....

    He also-correct me if I'm wrong-had never been down in his career before.
     
  13. MRBILL

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    Spinks suffered a bull**** knockdown call by Qawi in '83.
     
  14. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spinks was the lineal champ, but the 2 fights against (as best I remember it's been a long time) the old Holmes were not that impressive other than the spectacle of a LHW winning the title. He seemed to be very aware, almost afraid, of Holmes power, to the point of compromising his offense at the expense of trying to dominate the action. That's not a good recipe for anyone going up against a guy as relentless as Tyson. That Cooney fight was pretty impressive though Cooney was a lost soul @ the time. As one other poster said, Spinks had lost before the fight began.
     
  15. MRBILL

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    Spinks got a "Gift" over Larry Holmes in the '86 rematch. Then Spinks KO'd a European stiff named Stefan Tangsted later in '86 on HBO. After that, was the classic stoppage of Gerald Cooney in 1987 on PPV... And, last but not least, Spinks got iced by Tyson in '88...:hi:

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