Is Froch Wards best win?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Move on please. Get over the insecurity
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What context are we talking about now? You are still getting obsessed with a completely different subject. How many more times? Move on and stop being insecure
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Me showing some real figures isnt an agenda. That is some facts. What agenda do I have?
    This is the insecurity I mentioned once again




    Who said anything about rating it highly? I have said that I feel it could be Wards best win and I think its a decent win even if Kessler did have vision problems.
    I read (I think it was Frazier) was blind in one eye but that was still a decent win for Ali and Foreman

    Now once again grow up and stop being so childish
     
  4. Loudon

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    Im using him to highlight your bias, as per double J's post.

    Again, for the last 3 years, you have said how you don't rate Andre's win over Kessler.

    Do you want me to prove that?

    I can show you.

    You are the insecure one.

    You'll go to any lengths to defend your favourites, whilst ignoring any circumstances and throwing all logic out of the window. And you'll do it whilst you label others as being biased.

    Again, if anybody mentions Andre's name in a SMW thread regarding Joe, Ottke or Eubank, his wins are downgraded. Yet in threads like these where those guys aren't directly linked, you're then happy to rate them higher.

    You are very predictable, and now the likes of double j can see what agenda you're pushing.

    Now did you say the following:

    That Kessler was ill, faded and suffering from double vision etc?
     
  5. HerolGee

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    why do you term your obsession with stats " Loudons insecurity"?

    You ought not to blame your own failings on others.
     
  6. bailey

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    So it is your insecurity again.
    Once again why keep bringing up a fighter not relevant to a thread. You keep doing it with me like you are obsessed

    Once again see what I wrote above pasted below.
    I may well post about other fighters, in a thread talking about them all having done something in the same division, but that isnt what this thread is about. It is about what someone feels Wards best win is, and you going on about the same win in a completely different context in another thread based about the SMW division, rather than an individuals win, is you coming out yet again as insecure. really sorry to keep repeating that but im trying to get you to understand how obsessed you have become.

    You get very upset when someone has a different opinion to you, and above is you trying to distort facts as comments on a previous thread are also on a variation on another subject
    Its like if I wrote I dont think Tyson was at his best when he fought Douglas. It isnt saying the win isnt good or that I wouldnt put it as anything less than Douglas best win.

    Who said anything about rating it highly? I have said that I feel it could be Wards best win and I think its a decent win even if Kessler did have vision problems.
    I read (I think it was Frazier) was blind in one eye but that was still a decent win for Ali and Foreman

    Now once again grow up and stop being so childish
     
  7. Loudon

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    Stop running.

    You've got nowhere to go.

    You have just rated Kessler as being Andre Ward's best win.

    That's your opinion.

    Fine.

    However, I'm asking you a simple question:

    How can YOU think that Kessler is Andre Ward's best win, when you have constantly not rated it due to Kessler's circumstances??

    One minute it has no value, yet the next it tops beating Kovalev at LHW?

    You've been caught out.
     
  8. Loudon

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    I don't get upset when someone has a different opinion than me.

    I relish it.

    I challenge it.

    The point is this:

    On other threads, you have torn that win over Kessler down.

    You have ripped it.

    You have even questioned the knowledge of other people who have rated it highly.

    Yet here you are now rating it above Kovalev.

    This is what you do.
     
  9. bailey

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    Ive always said the win was decent just pointed out that Kessler was with vision problems. Doesnt mean it wasnt a decent win like Ali and Foremans against Frazier.
    This is you getting obsessed in that insecure way about other threads.
    Get over it Loudon and appreciate Wards arguably best win over Kessler
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You dont relish it. You just try and push your agenda

    You get very upset when someone has a different opinion to you, and above is you trying to distort facts as comments on a previous thread are also on a variation on another subject
    Its like if I wrote I dont think Tyson was at his best when he fought Douglas. It isnt saying the win isnt good or that I wouldnt put it as anything less than Douglas best win.

    Who said anything about rating it highly? I have said that I feel it could be Wards best win and I think its a decent win even if Kessler did have vision problems.
    I read (I think it was Frazier) was blind in one eye but that was still a decent win for Ali and Foreman

    Now once again grow up and stop being so childish
     
  11. ellerbe

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    SO I'm guessing you also pointed out that Calzaghe fought a Kessler with an injured hand.
     
  12. bailey

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    Why are you bringing up Calzaghe? What is the obsession you guys have? Its worrying
     
  13. ellerbe

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    I'm bringing him up to question your consistency. You're obviously a Calzaghe dickrider. So I'm wondering if Loudon is correct about you. That's all. If you've downplayed that win, which is Zaggers best win, then I'll have to say Loudon is being unfair with his criticism of you.
     
  14. bailey

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    You guys get obsessed with Calzaghe and you like Loudon are the ones wanting to bring him up here, not me, to the point it makes you insult as shown above. You are that insecure when it comes to him?
    I really couldnt care less if you agree with Loudon or not, though I would expect from our previous posting history that you would feel you would have to, which makes you trying to step up on this even more amusing to me.

    Now downplay the win would depend on the thread and what it was about.
    If someone said to me was it a decent win, I would agree it was. If someone said to me that it was one of the best SMW wins going or as high as some of the others I can think of, then I probably wouldnt go as high, but different points get given on different threads for different reasons and not related to this thread where those points dont need to come forward as much.
     
  15. ellerbe

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    Obsessed? I doubt I've brought him up once this month prior to this lmao. I just brought him up because you're an obvious fanboy? Can you not comprehend? Are you ok? If you were an obvious fanboy of Ali, Tyson, etc, I'd bring them up instead.

    So I'm guessing you haven't criticized that win in any thread or brought up hand injuries.

    Loudon is right.